emo Residual Solvents in Certificate of Analysis

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6 years 7 months ago #6100

whoops should red 0.38% ETHANOL .

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6 years 7 months ago #6101

What is the source?


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Genotype 3
VL 4,100,000
ALT 101 AST 71
Treatment Naive
Started Sof/Dac Jan 12, 2016
VL= <15 4 weeks in. AST/ALT normal.
VL=UNDETECTED 8 weeks in.
SVR4= Virus back. 3,300,000

Started generic Epclusa Sep. 23, 2017

4 weeks in <15 *Detected.
12 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
16 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
Finished 24 weeks treatment 3-17-18
SVR5 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 20 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 44 <15 Not Detected.

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Thank you Dr. James

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6 years 7 months ago #6103

kingswood pharmacy in sydney

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6 years 7 months ago #6106

I have just been diagnosed deficient B12 & folic acid associated with a) alcoholism or b) leukemia

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6 years 7 months ago #6107

I have no idea. It is probably used in making the product. Being an alcohol, it probably just wasn't dried out quite all the way.
I just ordered that from them today. :)


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Genotype 3
VL 4,100,000
ALT 101 AST 71
Treatment Naive
Started Sof/Dac Jan 12, 2016
VL= <15 4 weeks in. AST/ALT normal.
VL=UNDETECTED 8 weeks in.
SVR4= Virus back. 3,300,000

Started generic Epclusa Sep. 23, 2017

4 weeks in <15 *Detected.
12 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
16 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
Finished 24 weeks treatment 3-17-18
SVR5 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 20 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 44 <15 Not Detected.

Thank you Jesus.
Thank you Dr. James

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6 years 7 months ago #6108

be very careful. I am going to get my money back

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6 years 7 months ago #6110

the dickie batch no is 20150929

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6 years 7 months ago #6111

berrinice wrote:

be very careful. I am going to get my money back

Why?


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Genotype 3
VL 4,100,000
ALT 101 AST 71
Treatment Naive
Started Sof/Dac Jan 12, 2016
VL= <15 4 weeks in. AST/ALT normal.
VL=UNDETECTED 8 weeks in.
SVR4= Virus back. 3,300,000

Started generic Epclusa Sep. 23, 2017

4 weeks in <15 *Detected.
12 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
16 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
Finished 24 weeks treatment 3-17-18
SVR5 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 20 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 44 <15 Not Detected.

Thank you Jesus.
Thank you Dr. James

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6 years 7 months ago #6112

Why not call the pharmacy and ask them. They're open a few more hours.


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Genotype 3
VL 4,100,000
ALT 101 AST 71
Treatment Naive
Started Sof/Dac Jan 12, 2016
VL= <15 4 weeks in. AST/ALT normal.
VL=UNDETECTED 8 weeks in.
SVR4= Virus back. 3,300,000

Started generic Epclusa Sep. 23, 2017

4 weeks in <15 *Detected.
12 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
16 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
Finished 24 weeks treatment 3-17-18
SVR5 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 20 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 44 <15 Not Detected.

Thank you Jesus.
Thank you Dr. James

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6 years 7 months ago #6116

The Certificate of analysis I got from Kingswood for Dac says it should be less than 0.5%, so 0.38% is fine. My Dac came from the same batch.


M 61yo HCV+ ~ 30 yrs Gt1a F2 VL 223,000 ALT 54 AST 42 Tx start Sof/Dac 17Dec15.
SVR4 at 7Apr16 ALT 22 AST 22
SVR12 at 9Jun16 ALT 23 AST 25
Melbourne, Australia
Last Edit: 6 years 7 months ago by sonix.

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6 years 7 months ago #6120

berrinice wrote:

I have just been diagnosed deficient B12 & folic acid associated with a) alcoholism or b) leukemia

Hi berrinice,

0.38% of 60mg daily is equivalent of 1/44,000 of a standard drink so the traces of ethanol in the Dac won't be the cause of the deficiencies. While it is associated with alcoholism the alcohol isn't the cause. Most likely it is a dietary deficiency, are you vegan or on a low animal product diet? Regardless, your GP needs to investigate it to determine the cause. Here is some info in relation to hep c.

hepatitiscnewdrugs.blogspot.com.au/2011/...nd-vitamin-b-12.html

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G3a since '78 - Dx '12 - F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx - PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx - Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx - 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 - 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 - 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 - 26/10/17 UND
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6 years 7 months ago #6128

It is entirely usual that there are residual solvents present. They are the main reason that the purity is 99.x%

In the Daclatasvir we use the residual solvent is Ethyl Acetate CH3COOH (this is in nail polish remover and model airplane glue).

Ethanol is CH3CH2OH, and is a similar solvent.

If you think back to high school chemistry you probably remember dissolving crystal in liquid (solvent) and then mixing two things to make something else. This is the same as on industrial scale - the crystals of pure material are made in a solvent and it is increasingly expensive to remove all of it so we settle for 99.x% purity.


YMMV
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6 years 7 months ago #6141

Hi Berrinice, My latest blood tests showed a b12 and folate deficiency aswell, it only turned up after starting ribavirin along with a couple of other unpleasant side effects, I've stopped the ribavirin, 24 weeks of Sof/Dac seems to work better without it in gen 3's anyway, but the ribavirin side effects continue to linger. And will take some time to leave my system. Ribavirin causes anemia which is also a factor in b12 and folate deficiency (according to what I've read) Are you taking ribavirin?


GT 3, F3, Contracted 1993 Tx Naive
V/L 1,267,000 AST 67 ALT 65 6/10/15
commence Sof/Dac (Mesochem) 6/11/15
AST ALT normal 24/11 *
*V/L UNDETECTED 24/11*
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6 years 7 months ago #6143

no riba for about 3 weeks. its not diet, meat eater. I had bristol myer squibb daclatasvir for 3 months, then bought in sydney after a couple of weeks I starting getting really tired again like with hep so I had thyroid and a blood test which showed b12 and folic acid deficiency, the only thing that changed was the source of declatasvir. Also I am not happy with the shoddy certificate of analysis that came with the meds.

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6 years 7 months ago #6145

Ummm .... I got my meds from Kingswood and got the same copy of the certificate of analysis.

Call me crazy, but .... I'm willing to state with extremely high confidence that the quality of Kingswood's photocopier/printer will have no impact on the effectiveness of Mesochem's APIs.
:lol:


Edit: To put GAJ's number into a time perspective, to get the same quantity of alcohol as in one shot glass by taking one pill of Daclatasvir daily would require a treatment duration of 120 years plus 200 days.

Edit II: Oops, I made a mistake ... Using the Gregorian calendar it would only be 120 years and 170.9 days.

Last Edit: 6 years 7 months ago by klhilde.

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