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30 September 2016 at 4:44 pm #23366
Hi LG,
thank you for sharing this information.
In another thread on this forum I was specifying that the pressure is being wrongly made towards the government or authorities to allocate more money in order to treat more people. So the outcome from the news you posted here was somehow predictable, even though personally I find it very sad.But perhaps with such an outcome, people and the advocacy groups will realize that the solution stays in the generic HCV drugs. So what they should do is to put on the table the generics. Oh, and to get rid of the ghosts related to generic drugs.
GENERIC DRUGS EXIST, ARE REAL, MUCH CHEAPER AND EFFECTIVE!!!!
So instead of wasting time wondering if the HCV generic drugs really work, people should better focus their minds on how to provide the effective generic drugs to the patients.The issue of treating patients in mass would be much faster solved if people would start sharing more fiercely the news about the generic drugs.
I end here repeating the message from my signature:
HCV GENERIC DRUGS WORK. SHARE THIS KNOWLEDGE TO SAVE SOMEONE’S LIFE!
Cheers,
RHF
In fiecare an HCV ucide peste 500000 oameni.Medicamentele generice pentru hepatita C functioneaza. Nu deveni statistica! Cauta pe Google “medicamente generice pentru hepatita C”.
HCV kills more than 500000 people every year. HCV generic drugs work. Don’t become a statistic.
By sharing this Youtube video you might save someone’s life!
My TX: HEPCVIR-L[generic Harvoni]-India
SVR52 achieved30 September 2016 at 6:40 pm #23368Yes, it is sad, but at the same time unsurprising.
Yes, agreed.
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Thank-you Tim, Dr Debasis @ MonkMed & Dr Freeman @ Fix HepC1 October 2016 at 4:13 am #23398Ok, I know no one will probably like this, but here is my cynical view:
Hepatitis C trust is possibly a scam charity in as much as it takes donations and tries to work within the system. They make a nice living doing nothing, and helping no one.
NEWSFLASH: Western countries have a patent system in place. Gilead has a patent: Which is effectively a monopoly for Sofosbuvir based treatments for the next 20 years.
THERE IS ONLY ONE MESSAGE TO PROMOTE. IF PEOPLE WANT TREATMENT, THEY CAN IMPORT 3 MONTHS OF MEDICATION: THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES.
I say these people are a money making scam (Hepatitis C trust) For this reason, Gilead and the other companies have patents. The governments are not going to overturn that system. So it’s a big joke. Sure, generics are effective, people are dying.
But officials have been bribed to allow Gilead to control the marketplace. If you fall through the cracks, that is so sad, but we need to show a profit to investors (Gilead). It’s a shame you died.
STOP WAITING FOR A HANDOUT AND CURE YOURSELF. CONTACT ME IF YOU NEED HELP. Don’t be a victim of these lies and deceit.
1 October 2016 at 12:21 pm #23427Hi GF,
There are many kind souls that give a good listening ear at the HepC Trust and no doubt this charity was originally started with good intentions, by patients. The kind listening souls, who are volunteers and not paid. However, that was then and this is now.
However, how much are they doing to actually help patients access treatment working within the system? (If anyone reading this knows any different, I would love to hear about it).
The patients again, are asked to set up patient advocate patient groups in NHS hospitals, I can’t speak for all, but I know two years ago, when I was feeling very ill, there was no way I could have mustered up the energy for this and I was only F2, you know? I also didn’t want to revisit the hospital where I staggered with joint pain for my long waited first appointment and where the consultant didn’t didn’t show up, leaving a note saying he ‘didn’t want to see me’. Not forgetting the risk of loss of privacy, which is a concern for many due to stigma.
Likewise, patients were asked to fundrase to pay HepC Trust legal fees for this recent legal challenge.
I suggested to the HepC Trust that maybe they should ask the pharma companies to contribute, seeing as they are funded in part by Gilead eg. Their response was to say they wanted to keep it separate, but how can they do this in reality if big pharma sponsor them in part? There is clearly a conflict of interest, (didn’t the lawyers see this?)
Pre Fix HepC, I was continuously frustrated by the amount of meetings, expensive conferences, charities and think tanks that were set up to tackle the diabolical state of lack of humane treatments for HepC patients. Did the enormous amount of money spent for these endless debates and recommendations for highly paid ‘quangos’ etc bring access to treatment further forward – At all? I suggest not. I’m sure there are a few genuine people in there, not to belittle their work, but patient care is surely the aim?
That money could have been treating the sickest of patients, including a dear friend of mine for whom access to treatment came too late (still untreated) mostly due to health authority ‘error’ – Criminal and devastating for that patient and all close to them.
You are so right with this statement :
STOP WAITING FOR A HANDOUT AND CURE YOURSELF. CONTACT ME IF YOU NEED HELP. Don’t be a victim of these lies and deceit.
Look at what has been achieved here by Dr Freeman, MonkMed and Greg Jeffereys who started the ball rolling.
REAL results! Real lives changed for the better and real lives saved. When Dr Freeman went to Barcelona, no doubt at his own cost, it helped hundreds to get monitoring by getting EASL support from official trial results My latest hospital blood request forms had ‘Redemption’ written under the treatment section – What an achievement! This is the type of thing that is needed. Real positive action, not endless and costly words via unconnected bodies.I believe there is still a place for the HepC Trust as a supportive, listening body who can offer advise. The advise should be ‘If you’re not getting treated by the health authority, insurance etc get generics via a trusted supply chain, ie FixHepC ‘. Not all can afford this, but the cost is not so high and it can be raised with some effort for most. For those who are very poor and whose exchange rate is prohibitative, then these charities should be raising money for these people to get treated, not fior endless meetings of talk, no action that raises the hopes of patients only to be dashed again. It seems an extremely expensive way to keep the cause vaguely in the public eye with little in the way of results.
Many, Cancer charities in the UK eg offer financial support to those in need for many cases, why not HepC charities too?
I’m sure my post won’t be popular either, but hey.
GT1a Dec14 F2/8.7 VL 900000-2.5M
Jan16 Hepcivir-L MonkMed/Redemption
Baseline: VL 913575 Alt 76 Platelets low
Wk2 VL1157 Alt 23
DET Wk 8 VL 32 Alt19 ‘In the slow lane’
June16 Fibro 5.7 F0/1 LIF 1.5
Wk 11 VL<12 Alt 13 Det/Unq
Extending tx 12 wks Mylan Sofo/Dac MonkMed
Wk 14 VL <12 Det/Unq
Wk 16 VL UNDETECTED
Wk 22 + 4 Wks Sunprevir FixHepC
Wk 24 UNDETECTED Alt 13
Wk 12 post tx SVR12 Wk 26 SVR24
Thank-you Tim, Dr Debasis @ MonkMed & Dr Freeman @ Fix HepC1 October 2016 at 12:31 pm #23428Hi GF and LG,
What you are saying are aspects that have been noticed/observed or felt in the real world. Of course, there might be cases when what you said can perhaps be expressed with other words, but that’s more a matter of talking.Looking at the politicians, they seem to avoid assuming responsibility for sensitive issues (like the case of patent law vs right to health) by claiming that they represent the majority of the people and as long as people were not asking in large number for the access to generic drugs… they can easily claim their hands are tight and cannot do much about it.
The political view will change dramatically if only people would start to talk more and more about the HCV generic drugs…..
BR
RHF
In fiecare an HCV ucide peste 500000 oameni.Medicamentele generice pentru hepatita C functioneaza. Nu deveni statistica! Cauta pe Google “medicamente generice pentru hepatita C”.
HCV kills more than 500000 people every year. HCV generic drugs work. Don’t become a statistic.
By sharing this Youtube video you might save someone’s life!
My TX: HEPCVIR-L[generic Harvoni]-India
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