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Curious to see if Mike knows any more information about this. He seems to be the go to guy with the most information regarding importation issues. Geeze he may actually be sleeping for once illy:' />
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22Wow this really sucks I was so anxious waiting for my meds, afraid they wouldn’t make it through customs and after hearing about Gilead getting involved with the Indian pharms I had a bad feeling something like this might be coming
I hope the people waiting for their meds from India will at least have their money refunded.
This is all the more reason to get your meds asap before any other avenues suffer the same unbelievable out reaching greed of Gilead to completely control the market with their outrageous prices and getting some of the revenue even from the Indian market that is still priced way below Gilead’s.
I personally went through Kingswood without any problems. Bangladesh, China, Kingswood and the Redemption trails appear to still be reliable options if still contemplating this l urge you to act now and use one of the other sources until we get more information on this f-up development.
We all deserve to have access to affordable reliable tx!
Wishing the best for all waiting for their DAA’s
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22Maybe Dr Freeman can give an answer to your questions Thurl.
This is all new information and I am sure more will be coming out as more results come in for all the new DAA’s being used.
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22The remarkable success of the new direct-acting antiviral (DAA) therapies for chronic HCV infection has led many patients and physicians to expect a cure whenever these agents are used. Although this is indeed the outcome for most, what can we offer the few patients in whom these treatments fail?
The data on retreatment are just starting to emerge. Whereas these studies cannot address every situation, a few general approaches are supported both by good logic and at least some empirical evidence: 1) switching to a different DAA class or classes, 2) treating for longer, and 3) adding ribavirin.
Treating With a Different DAA Class
The simple approach of switching DAA classes is an obvious option for retreatment. It is certainly effective as there is no cross-resistance across DAA classes. This was established by the outstanding results of clinical trials in which patients who experienced protease inhibitor (telaprevir or boceprevir) failure were retreated with combinations of a nucleotide polymerase inhibitor (sofosbuvir) and an NS5A inhibitor (daclatasvir or ledipasvir).However, switching to a different DAA class is not always possible, owing to contraindications, comorbidities, or potential drug–drug interactions, and may not be absolutely necessary if the other approaches are followed.
The biggest challenge in treating with a different class is NS5A resistance. NS5A resistance associated variants (RAVs) are very fit; they often emerge even before treatment and almost always persist in patients for whom an NS5A-containing regimen fails. Since NS5A inhibitors are part of most approved and investigational regimens, it can be difficult to avoid NS5A inhibitors when retreating.
Extending Treatment Duration
Retreating patients with a longer duration of the same treatment that failed can help many patients, but it may not be enough to overcome RAVs. This was demonstrated in the initial retreatment trial presented at EASL 2015 by Lawitz and colleagues. Patients for whom 8 or 12 weeks of ledipasvir/sofosbuvir failed were retreated with ledipasvir/sofosbuvir again—this time for 24 weeks. Among patients without NS5A RAVs, this approach worked very well, resulting in an SVR12 rate of 100%. However, among those with NS5A RAVs, this strategy was suboptimal, with an SVR12 rate of only 60%. Even more concerning, 4 of the patients who failed the second course of therapy also developed RAVs to sofosbuvir. Fortunately, lessons were learned and the retreatment trials presented at AASLD this year proved much more successful.Adding Ribavirin
Data from the 2015 AASLD annual meeting highlight that retreatment with a previously unsuccessful regimen is possible with the help of ribavirin. In the C-SWIFT trial, patients who had relapsed after 4-8 weeks of treatment with grazoprevir (a protease inhibitor), elbasvir (an NS5A inhibitor), and sofosbuvir (an NS5B inhibitor) were retreated with the same combination of DAAs but for longer (12 weeks) and with the addition of ribavirin. With this approach, all 23 patients achieved SVR12.The benefit of adding ribavirin to retreatment is not exclusive to NS5A inhibitors. In a small study of patients for whom a protease inhibitor regimen had failed, most patients were retreated with a protease inhibitor–containing regimen (ombitasvir/paritaprevir/ritonavir plus dasabuvir) plus sofosbuvir and ribavirin. Fourteen of these 15 patients achieved SVR12.
Although the mechanism(s) of action of ribavirin remain elusive, almost all studies using ribavirin with DAAs have shown that it delays or prevents the emergence of resistance, particularly in difficult-to-cure populations. Because ribavirin seems to raise the barrier to resistance, particularly for low-barrier DAAs including NS5A and protease inhibitors, it makes sense to add ribavirin to DAAs when retreating patients with presumed or known resistance.
Combining Strategies
All of the small retreatment studies I’ve mentioned successfully combined at least 2 of 3 approaches: switching to a different DAA class, treating for longer, or adding ribavirin. However, most of these retreatment studies were in patients without cirrhosis, a relatively easy-to-cure population. In clinical practice, many of the patients whose first treatment fails are those with advanced cirrhosis. For these tougher-to-treat patients, a combination of all 3 approaches would likely be worthwhile.Consider Waiting to Retreat
Although retreatment strategies are becoming more clearly defined, it is also important to consider that, for most patients, retreatment is not an emergency. For all patients except those with life-threatening cryoglobulinemic vasculitis, retreatment can almost certainly wait. Even for patients with advanced cirrhosis, waiting is not always a bad decision; SVR does not reverse liver failure in many patients, so those who cannot wait may actually be better served by being listed for a transplant.There are at least 2 advantages to exercising a bit of patience. First, unfit RAVs, such as those to sofosbuvir, often disappear with time. Of more importance, research in HCV management continues to move at breakneck speed. The next meeting in this field may well offer the data we need to guide our decisions so we avoid failing a second time.
Your Thoughts?
Which approaches or combinations of approaches have you found effective for retreating patients whose DAAs have failed? When do you begin retreatment? I encourage readers to share their experiences below.PS Here is a copy and paste of the entire article. I was able to copy and paste it on my mac, I was on my ipad before and not sure how to do that on the ipad
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22Read an article yesterday on the website Clinical Care Options
How I manage Pts with HCV after DAA tx failure
By Jordan J Feld, MD, MPHSorry don’t really know how to post it here, but was an interesting read. Maybe someone here better pc savy could find it and post.
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22Hi Ariel, That’s great news just keep blasting away at those stragglers
Yep they found possibly 2 kidney stones on the right with my liver u/s, they didn’t bother to look at the left since they were supposed to be looking mostly at my liver. So went to GP this week and will do another u/s tomorrow on both of my kidneys to find out if I have them on both sides and their size. Geeze you think they could have took a looky on the left the first time but no now they can charge me and my insurance for another u/s oh well we all know how these systems work I’ll refrain from further comment on that subject
Yeah been having some back pain the last couple of days along with the new knee pain ick:' /> I believe it is more related to a stressful week at work more than any sides of tx. Trying to stay hydrated but was so busy last night at work I barely put a dent in my water bottle.
Thanks for the hugs and back at you
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22I have a question regarding supplements. I stopped taking almost all of my supplements except for B12,D3 and a probiotic. So I am having some knee pain from an old wake boarding injury. Years ago I started taking glucosamine and it helped but was still having occasional problems with the knee. I read up and switched to taking tart cherry which really helped. I haven’t had any problems with my knee since except for this week. I think I probably overextended it Sunday playing corn hole at my son’s on Sunday since it’s been hurting since I woke on Monday
Does anyone know if tart cherry or anything with cherries is contraindicated to sof/dac?
The bottle supplement facts say:
VitaCherry HiActves 465mg
Tart Cherry Powder (fruit) (25:1 concentrate from fresh cherries, minimum 0.5% anthocyanins and 1% flavonoids)
Other ingredients: Rice flour, gelatin, magnesium stearateBeen looking through the threads regarding supplements and also just trying to find anything online about it to no avail
Would really like to start taking it again since I do believe it really worked for me for several years. Anyway if anyone knows anything or has any references you can point me to that would be greatly appreciated
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22Hi Ariel, Looking good as Gaj said not UND but very low VL I am sure you will be UND with your next labs Congrats and best wishes for the remainder of your tx
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22Thanks Ariel Have you done any labs yet since starting tx?
I hope you Pop Up and Slash to SVR
CC
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22I to got my sof/dac from Kingswood and wondered the same thing, if they were still getting the API’s from Mesochem since it didn’t say anywhere on the paperwork. But I agree with 2b, don’t really care where they came from as long as they are working. And I do believe that they are, because my energy and attitude is so much better since starting tx. I to am about the same size as you MG, at about 53kg. Not having any sides to really complain about. I actually think I have less headaches and am sleeping a little better since starting tx. Will be getting my 4 week labs this Saturday hoping for the best
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22Thanks Mike, I haven’t had a chance yet to do that, been busy this week but will have a few days off after tonight and will do that soon. Good to hear it’s getting hectic Great job at getting the word out there. You are amazing to say the least
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22Hi guys, haven’t posted on here (my tx thread) in a while, just getting on with life really feeling like I have lots more energy and sleeping ok. This Friday will be day#28 for me so stopped by GI office yesterday to pick up lab orders for my 4 week labs. This was the first time I actually talked to the GI nurse in person since Dec way before I told them I had started tx with generics. I was very happy to see how supportive she was. She wanted more information on how I went about obtaining the generics. She told me that she had already mentioned to a couple of their HCV patients that she was unable to get their insurance to cover tx that they had another patient (me) who they were following who had imported the DAA’s. So I gave her copies of some of the information from the fixhepc and GP2U websites. Made me feel good that they were so receptive and hopefully it can help someone else to SVR that may not be aware that this option is available.
So since I am taking my meds in the evening,my plan is to go in on Saturday and have my 4 week labs done. Will update when I get those results.
CC
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22And really hope you are feeling better soon!
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22don’t forget to check out for interactions if you do end up having to take some antibiotics
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22you can phone via viber or whatsapp to anyone anywhere as long as you have a wifi connection. it doesn’t cost anything it’s a free app for your cell phone. you just both have to have the same app downloaded onto your cell and a wifi connection. you can also text on it for free if you choose.
hope you are in better spirits soon
GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22 -
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