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Hope is very important, here’s a video we did about it for World Hepatitis Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTC2E13E1Ww
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Hi Karen,
The ALT and AST are enzymes that leak out of dead and dying liver cells. The fact that they have fallen (as expected) proves that the damage to your liver that was happening has stopped happening.
You are definitely on track.
I understand the curiosity thing but if it’s a big expense your AST/ALT results virtually guarantee you will be undetected. It’s always marvelous to see those two words….”Not Detected” has a nice ring to it!
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Hello Frank,
Sorry to hear you are feeling unwell.
The old Interferon/Ribavirin was very harsh. You noted it took 9 years to recover from the 2001 treatment and treated again in 2013 with it before the Harvoni treatment in 2017.
While it may be leftover effects from the Interferon, or, less likely, the Harvoni what must be remembered is that Hep C treatment provides 0% protection from all other diseases.
Do you have blood results for full blood count, iron studies, creatinine, urea and electrolytes, vitamin b12, thyroid function, ESR, CRP and HbA1c?
This group of tests looks for a range of other things that make people feel sick.
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If your antibody is normal then you either
A. Do not have Hep C.
B. Caught it in the last few weeks and there has not been enough time for the antibody to go positive.If you have a look at this:
You will see that the antibody (red line Anti-HCV) is expected to be over the normal range (10-11 depending on the lab) within about 1 month of being exposed to Hep C. Your value of 0.5 is well below that… Also note that the ALT enzyme rises before the antibody – and we know (from the results below) that your ALT has not risen.
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Hello Nerv02,
What we don’t have here is the screening test for Hep C which is the Hep C antibody test. You should get that done.
What we do have is a whole lot of normal tests showing you have normal liver function with a normal ALT and AST – these are liver enzymes that go up when anything (including Hep C) is damaging your liver. The fact that you have normal values suggest you don’t have anything damaging your liver.
I have seen about 1 patient in 1000 who does have Hep C and also has normal liver function, so that’s roughly the chances of you having Hep C. A simple $10 antibody test for Hep C will put your mind at rest, let you know you don’t have it, and therefore don’t need any treatment.
So, looks like you don’t actually have the problem you’re worrying about.
Your kidneys and blood all look good too.
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Hello Hopeful425,
It takes a week of so for the drugs to wash out of your system. There is quite a lot that goes on during treatment and some people do take a while to come good after.
That said, the average age of a patient is 55-60 and at this stage in life all sorts of other things begin to happen. Thyroid problems and diabetes are common at this age and 3 x more common in patients with Hep C so it’s worth having a “routine physical” type appointment, maybe with a doctor to whom you don’t mention the Hep C so they can look at you with an unbiased eye.
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Hi KarenB,
Feeling a few twinges where your liver is – right side, under the ribs at the top of your abdomen is quite normal. It is indeed your liver shrinking as the damage done by the virus begins to be undone.
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Hello Nerv02,
Sorry you are worrying.
Either you have been infected with Hep C or you have not. Most people exposed to other people with Hep C do not contract it – you need direct blood to blood contact.
To check for infection we do a Hep C antibody test. If this is negative you have not been infected so stop worrying. If this is positive read on…
25% of people infected with Hep C get rid of it themselves.
To check this we do an HCV PCR RNA test. If this is negative your immune system has cleared the v virus so stop worrying. If it is positive read on…
Ok, so you are infected with Hep C – treatment is easy, not too expensive, and cure rates are 95%
Just walk yourself through the steps and if you need to get treated, well that’s what we are here for.
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Hi KarenB,
If you want a sneak peek, and assuming your ALT was elevated on your CMP you can just do that. It typically falls to normal within 2 weeks of starting treatment. This is a lot less expensive than a viral load.
There is an 80% chance you will be undetected by the end of week 4, so that’s the time to look.
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Hell beahavan,
Yes, getting cured substantially reduces the risk of premature death for patients with Hep C but does not entirely eliminate it.
Patients with cirrhosis definitely need regular 6 monthly AFP and Ultrasound. For everyone else, routine checkups are about it.
Accepting that life is a terminal disease, and sexually transmitted at that the basis of good health is pretty simple. Don’t smoke, don’t be diabetic (or be well treated), don’t have high cholesterol (or be well treated) and don’t have high blood pressure (or be well treated). These 4 are the major causes of the heart attacks and strokes that carry 60%+ of us out of here.
With your blood pressure, it’s fine. 134/73 is not high and is not something requiring treatment. Over 160/90 is high and needs treatment.
Other useful things for health are staying fit and active, maintaining your social relationships, being in the healthy weight range, eating a good variety of fresh food, getting enough sleep, and not drinking too much (note that moderate drinkers live longer people who abstain)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25207479
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Hi KarenB,
Welcome to the forum.
To answer your questions, first I note you said
My doctor told me that it’s not alarming
So you probably don’t really even have to worry. Do you know the ferritin, iron, transferrin and saturation numbers?
Harvoni will not impact your iron level
Iron from animal meat sources is better absorbed than from vegetable sources but the vast majority of vegetarians are not iron deficient so either sort of diet generally works
Iron supplements should only be used if absolutely necessary because they are not natural (and natural tends to be better), they often upset peoples digestion (stomach pains) and they will turn your faeces black. The Iron+Vitamin C ones work best.
Given you are 40 and (from your name) a female it’s probable you are still menstruating. For most women who are pre-menopausal and iron deficient, the cause is heavy periods. If you are using an oral contraceptive your periods can be quite safely stopped by skipping the sugar pills and having (say) one period every 6 months when you take the sugar pills. That fixes the problem at the source.
Best of luck with the treatment. It’s generally smooth sailing to cure.
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Hello MikeMike,
Thanks for the kind words and congratulations on getting your undetected result after 4 weeks of the treatment. It’s great to hear the fatigue has gone and you’re playing a bit of golf. Now, speaking of golf…
So should you leave the flag in or take it out when you putt?
The results are in and the science says:
mygolfspy.com/flagstick-in-flagstick-out-2019-new-golf-rules/
Although my brother wrote back:
Yes, the “science” is in and it definitely should help, my problem is in my head, when I leave the flag stick in for short putts I think try to hit between the flag and edge of the hole!
Please keep us posted with updates about how you’re getting on. Despite the ~4000 people who’ve posted over 25,000 messages here a lot of people still struggle to believe it’s possible to get hold of the treatment.
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Hi Lorraine,
While no medication is 100% safe taking Hep C treatment is much safer than leaving the disease to run its course.
Diabetes and blood pressure treatment is not a contraindication to using Maviret although it is possible that the diabetes or blood pressure tablets he is currently on could interact with the Mavyret.
Drug interactions can be checked here:
https://www.hep-druginteractions.org/checker
The surgeries don’t impact on the treatment.
The best way to ensure your husband continues to have a normal active life through his 60s and 70s is to treat the Hep C. There was a big study looking at 33808 patients in 3 US Health Systems treated with these medications published in the Journal of the American Medical Association just a week or two ago:
Key Points
Question Are patients with hepatitis C who receive direct-acting antivirals at increased risk for adverse events compared with those who do not receive these agents?
Findings In this cohort study of 33 808 patients in 3 health systems, direct-acting antiviral exposure was associated with lower odds of experiencing the following adverse events: death, multiple organ failure, hepatic decompensation, acute-on-chronic liver event, and arrhythmia.
Meaning Concerns about safety risks based on analyses of the US Food and Drug Administration’s Adverse Events Reporting System did not appear to be confirmed, suggesting that dispensed direct-acting antivirals may be safe for patients with hepatitis C
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You should be fine to try for a baby now.
As far as we know Harvoni does not cause mutant sperm.
If you were very very paranoid you would say it takes ~ 3 months for pretty much every last molecule of Harvoni to exit the system and 3 months to generate new sperm from scratch.
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