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24 weeks of Sof/Dac or Sof/Led would help. No Riba.
My impression is that Sof/Led might have a slight side effect edge so may be more gentle. Both are gentle treatments.
The typical treatment experience is feeling better than for years within a week of starting.
It is hard to say how many years of life it might add, but those years may well be better.
It would certainly be worth giving 12 weeks to start and then next 12 if that goes well.
If you need help with sourcing Buyers Club can help and price is less for delivery in China because that is source country. You could probably have delivered on Monday.
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Hi Vicki,
The big NO NO with Dac is Grapefruit juice which inhibits the enzyme CYP3A4 which breaks down the Dac. As a result of this inhibition the Dac levels build up, as do the sides.
You may find this page helpful
http://www.ganfyd.org/index.php?title=Inhibitors_of_CYP3A4
Here’s Wikipedia’s overview of it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CYP3A4
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I would be backing Bangladesh but rumour has it that Christmas may bring good news on this front, probably from more than one manufacturer in more than one country.
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Beacon Pharma are real.
They sent product to us over a month ago, the first of the Bangladesh manufacturers to do so.
Sadly it was intercepted in Singapore customs and never arrived. Bear this in mind.
They have sent more samples for testing via a different route. We will test it. I expect it will be fine but can’t state that for a fact.
We have tested Incepta’s Twinvir. It is a good generic, but our samples came via a 3rd party country.
So, in short, yes there is good medication in Bangladesh. Getting it from there to you is not trivial.
If you can travel go.
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- Buy some milligram scales off eBay
- Buy some size 0 capsules off eBay
- Measure correct weight, tip into capsule, close capsule
- Repeat 84 times for each medication
If you are in Australia Buyers Club can both test and arrange encapsulation.
This is a nifty filling tool http://www.torpac.com/funnels.htm
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Will see specialist next month, I think he will ask me to wait for it to be put into the PBS list
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When will u start your treatment?
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Dr freeman recommend either sof/dac or sof/led 12 weeks
I saw sames like not many people taking Harvoni here . I can’t decide which one ….
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Hi, I’m a newbie, this is my first post, HepC profile below.
I have decided that rather than wait indefinitely for Tx2, I’m going to try to get Sof/Dac via the Buyers Club.
I’m G3, F2/3, so I shouldn’t need RIBA, plus I had bad anaemia during Tx1 so would rather avoid it if possible.
So far I have struck out trying to get a script in UK, but still avenues available including the Manchester Clinic that people have mentioned in another topic.
I have a video appointment with Dr Freeman on 7/10, hoping he will be able to provide script & meds.
Will post again after appointment.HepC Profile
Born 1954, male
Genotype: 3a
Infected: early 80s
Diagnosed: 2013
Treatment: 24 weeks Int/Riba 2014 relapsed,
currently waiting for Sof/Int/Riba treatment (12 weeks) on NHS
Fibroscan: 10.3-F2/3 in 2/2014
Latest Viral Load: 52000 in 6/2015
ALT, ALP & AFP all in normal range 6/2015
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For some commentary please see The Trans-Pacific Partnership: the dirtiest trade deal, you’ve never heard of
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No, it should not. You do need pneumococcal vaccination, but I’m sure you already know that.
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Hello Jolie,
I will start this with a disclaimer – my experience with Hep C the new DAAs only goes back to March, and the entire world’s experience is really only a couple of years. Data is lacking and the margins of error in the encouraging trial data is large.
First the guidelines say 12 weeks Sof+Dac is appropriate for you.
Now let’s consider some hypotheticals.
Fibrosis is not “you have cirrhosis” or “you don’t” but our guidelines deal with the issue of fibrosis in that way because of the need to group people to get statistically meaningful numbers. We know that longer 24 week treatment is often recommended in the context of a high level of fibrosis, but why is this?
My working model goes like this. Fibrotic tissue has a very poor blood supply, therefore getting medications into fibrotic areas is harder. You might imagine fibrosis as like the walls of a castle protecting the areas inside. Fibrosis is a spectrum. You might also imagine that F4 represents strong castle walls made of bricks and F1 represents weak walls, like the straw house the little pig made to hide from the wolf.
Now consider that for an antibiotic/antiviral to work we need to reach what’s called the MIC (Minimum Inhibitory Concentration) – below this level it does not work, above this level it works. Like fibrosis this is a spectrum.
Now imagine to kill you I have to make you wet with rain. If I send you out in the rain stark naked it will not take long (low fibrosis), and if it’s raining heavily (high doses) it won’t take long either.
Now imagine I put some clothes on you. Now it’s going to take longer to get you wringing wet. This is like mild fibrosis.
Now imagine I put a cheap spray jacket on you. Now it’s going to take longer again and this is like having higher fibrosis.
Now imagine you have a Gortex Jacket. This keeps you dry, but over time water leaks in through the cuffs, around the neck. This is like cirrhosis.
So you could intuit that the optimal treatment times might really look like (total speculation)
F0 8 weeks
F1 12 weeks
F2 16 weeks
F3 20 weeks
F4 24 weeksNow I just pulled those numbers out of my ear, but I hope you can see what I’m saying. More fibrosis probably needs more treatment and a binary division < F4 = 12 weeks and F4 = 24 weeks does not make a huge degree of logical sense. Now when we look at treatment duration we know that it's too long. It's supposed to be too long because we can't know exactly when to stop. All we can ever know is that we probably stopped a little early if it comes back. Unfortunately this knowledge is only available in retrospect. So moving on to Government economics. The goal is not maximal cure rates, it is maximal cure rate PER DOLLAR SPENT. Consider 12 weeks treatment $60,000 (so 8 weeks is $40,000) Cure rate @ 12 weeks 95% Cure rate @ 8 weeks 90% Take a group of 100 patients. 8 weeks treatment will cost $4,000,000 for 90 cures = $44,444 per cure 12 weeks treatment will cost $6,000,000 for 95 cures = $63,157 per cure Let's assume that we can retreat with 24 weeks @120,000 In the 8 week group that costs another $1,200,000 and sees only one patient not at cure. $5,200,000 for 99 cures = $52,525 per cure In the 12 week group that costs another $600,000 and sees only 1/2 a patient not at cure. $6,600,000 for 99.5 cures = $66,331 per cure So the shorter treatment time, although it does not provide the best cure rate is 25% cheaper per cure, even with retreatment. If you were planning to spend billions on treatment then 25% is a huge number. When politicians talk about making hard decisions these are the sort of decisions they are talking about.
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Hi Alan,
Yes you will need a prescription to pickup from Incepta. I am told they will accept a prescription from doctors from any country and we have contacts there we are happy to share with you so you have someone to talk to.
Import into Thailand is legal.
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Magnesium is a mineral (rather than a vitamin) and is found in all sorts of foods. Taking it, but at least an hour or two before/after your DAA, should be fine. as by the time you take the DAA there will be nothing you have not absorbed.
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