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Hello Tatty,
We do suspect that your immune system still plays a role but it’s small. The evidence suggestive of this includes past treatment failures (Peg/Riba) being harder to treat and VL > 6 million treatment naive GT1 needing 12 rather than 8 weeks.
That said the cure rates for HIV positive people don’t seem to be reduced.
So in short nobody really knows what the impact of cyclosporin might be. Optimists would say none, pessimists would say a lot.
What is useful is an observation from both Egypt (unpublished) and the USA (published) that notes in the Egyptian case that a 4 log drop by the end of week 1 indicates 12 weeks will work, and in the US case that being detectable at week 4 reduces a 92% SVR in GT1 patients on Harvoni by 8-10%.
So if you are undetectable I would suggest being happy and leaving things as planned with 12 weeks treatment. In NOT undetectable then consider extending the duration by 4 or more weeks.
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If you look at it logically from the point of return on investment.
90% cure (Sof+Riba or Sof+Led) – leaves 10%
90% cure (Sof+Vel) in that 10% leaves 1%
90% cure (Sof+Vel+Vox) in that 1% leaves 0.1%
0.1% of 180 million is “only” 180,000 total patients versus 179,820,000 who could have access to curative medication that already exists.
With ABT-493 3 x better than GS-9857 (Vox) and ABT-530 10 x better than Velpatasvir for all intents and purposes 99.9%+ of people can be cured with existing medications.
The issue we have is not further invention. It’s deployment on an industrial scale.
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5 November 2016 at 5:08 am in reply to: undetectable at 9 weeks sof/dac gen 3a F3 inf/rib relapsr #24181You really already know enough – genotype and fibrosis to select the correct treatment. Your discussion of the options is also correct. With Sof/Dac and GT3 F3 I would suggest >12 weeks if finances permit.
With Sof/Vel only approved in late June there is nobody outside trials at SVR12 so while it may/should be slightly better for GT3 Sof/Dac is a good option, and well proven
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Is your viral load really 900 million?
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The downward trend relates mostly to missing projected targets.
From memory they had 150,000 script this time last year for the quarter, but only 110,000 in the most recent quarter.
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3 November 2016 at 7:20 am in reply to: Evidence shows value of treating all stages of chronic HCV #24147Here is a typical email that came in this morning putting it in more human terms…..
Good afternoon
I apologise for taking so long but i wanted results 3 months after completing treatment and good news still no virus detected.
My treatment went very well, first week only one night gastro and vomiting, i like to think that was the night my body decided to tell itself to kill the virus.The only ongoing noticeable side affect was joint pain but i do have osteoarthritis and i decided not to take any medications or natural health products while on treatment apart from my thyroid medication to give this every chance.
Due to having Hep C for what i believe is over 30 years i thought that my life was fairly normal, but since no virus detected i feel very different. Motivation, no fatigue, happier, people comment on my shiny hair and skin and my memory is great now. I must mention i have not had an ear infection since commencing treatment, i suffered them constantly for many years.
I am back working full time with so much energy, an overall feeling of wellness.
I will always be grateful to fixhepc, a simple thank you does not seem enough to express being given a productive and healthy life.
I love that my doctor can share my story with other hep c patients to encourage them to commence treatment and rid this virus from all those suffering and living with the thought of no cure was ever coming.
Kindest regards
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I am on day 26 of my course, going for my 4 weeky blood test on Friday. Can I really expect to see an improvement on this test. I must say I am not very good at interpreting blood tests. I just hope its not too long before the doctor has the results back.
Unless you are cirrhotic your ALT and AST will be in the normal range and it’s likely your viral load will be <15 or undetected.
The liver functions take 24 hours to come back. The viral load takes a week or so.
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Hello thirdtimelucky,
Most of the UK teaching hospitals will monitor patients who have sourced generics themselves. Some prescribe, some don’t and that’s on a per consultant basis.
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What does get reported in fmol/L is HCV CORE ANTIGEN. This is a test like PCR (in that it is looking for and counting how much virus it can see).
Here is a paper: http://www.ejmm.edu.eg/beta/images/articles/April_2014/67-74.pdf
In the paper it says:
Based on this equation, it was possible to calculate that 3 fmol/L of total HCV core Ag is equivalent to 263 IU/mL HCV RNA
So that would be 1 fmol/L to 90 IU/ml of HCV RNA – call it 100
So your 673 represent a viral load of about 60,000
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Another quick question – I do not see dates on posts on this forum , is there any way to know when a particular post been made?
On a mobile device this information is not displayed due to size limitations. It is on the normal web based view
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Vox is not available as a generic yet, but your SVR rate with either Sofosbuvir + Daclatasvir or Sofosbuvir + Velpatasvir will be >95%
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I’m not anti herbal but things like Loceryl are designed for, and fit for, purpose.
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Loceryl is a topical agent used once a week.
The application time depends on speed of nail growth.
What you expect to see is new health nail growing outwards. Once all the infected nail is gone (ie trimmed off) treat for a bit longer to be sure, but you can see it progressively growing out.
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The oral antifungals are all a bit toxic. That is because fungal cells are very like human cells and therefore very hard to target without some collateral damage.
That said, these drugs are generally safe and severe liver toxicity is very rare.
One option would be to try intensive topical treatment for a good 3 months plus and use oral treatment only if that fails
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I would be happy with your ALT and AST. The reason we need a normal range is that normal people vary. Some are normally in the middle, some at the upper end, some at the lower end. The drop from pretreatment levels is the significant thing.
GT1b is the easiest GT to cure. This is in your favour. Low fibrosis and low viral load are both good but past treatment failure means your predicted SVR is 94% with 12 weeks and 99% at 24 weeks. This is from Gilead’s trials and in the real world this is a little optimistic ie treatment naive GT1 patients got 97% in the trials (about 300 patients) but the VA in the US found it to be 91.3% (in 4200+ veterans)
So good odds with 12 weeks, 5% (ish) better with 24 but at double the price. I would be happy with you doing 12, 16, 20 or 24 weeks. The extra bit from 12->16 has more value than the 20->24 block.
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