There will now be 15 posts per page (up from 6) so more scrolling and less next-ing.

It’s not a per user option.

Sure thing.

I’m locking this thread now.

I think enough has been said.

Very nice Gaj…..do you get bothered with mosquitoes at all? Looks so serene and peaceful.

Gilead’s phase 3 trials involved a lot of human experimentation. ION worked out well, but some of the people who helped trial telaprevir boceprevir were not so lucky. There is no evident sense of any need to pay back into the society and people that made these profits possible.

On current trends by the time the patents on DAAs expire as many as 20 million people will have perished who could have been saved. That’s more or less equivalent to the entire population of my country.

The US has used military force and economic sanctions against countries judged in contravention of basic human rights, and yet here we have it’s own citizens dying and it stands impotent to do anything about the actions of a corporate entity trading within its sovereign borders.

At the conclusion of WWII a number of people, judged guilty of genocide on a mass scale, were taken out, tied to a post, and shot.

Times have changed but we, as in society, need to have a serious conversation around pharma profits, patent rights and patient rights.

The standard of living we all enjoy depends on co-operative effort and anybody wanting more than their fair share of the communal pie is strangling the goose that lays the golden eggs.

FixHepC is a peaceful protest about this.

Tasmania is a beautiful place. I lived in Glenorchy for 2 years and worked in the City of Hobart. Was living there when the accident happened with the bridge came down that’s how long ago it was. Have been back for a couple of holidays over the years too.

Hi DT,

Thanks for posting.

Having read the thread I can see how you might feel that way.

To me your question was perfectly valid and Sir’s response was rude. We all have bad days.

That might well have been the end of it but you did then throw a rock back with:

Hi Sir,

Have you just caught up with this conversation? – a day late and a dollar short, as they say.
Maybe get yourself into the ballpark first, then we’ll have something to talk about.
dt

And it looks like the bickering continues from there. Sir did have a valid point in that not detected does deserve a dancing banana.

To answer the original question:

I’ve now seen well over 2000 HCV RNA results from almost every lab in the country.

Some report at HCV quantitative like this

HCV RNA <15
log < 1.18 And then go on to add: Comment: Undetected (by mostly COBAS Taqman) Some report it like this: HCV RNA N

N = Undetected

Some like this:

HCV RNA < 15 COM1

COM1: Not detected

There are quite a few styles and skipping writing <12 <15 <25 or <30 when it is undetected is not that uncommon.

Undetected itself really just means <5 (depending on the test).

I did see one the other day that said something like "Quantification not done due to HCV RNA not being detected" which seemed a pretty sensible way to report it.

Personally I prefer the ones that cut to the chase and just say undetected rather than requiring me to read the <15 and then the comment.

Anyway, I think you've been here long enough to be made a moderator too so take care with the extra buttons. The pay is terrible and the hours are awful.

We're a mixed bunch and it's highly stressful wondering if you're going to draw the short straw at SVR time. I've enjoyed a lot of your posts and would hate to see you go or not feel welcome. Maybe you and Sir could agree it was not the finest hour on the forum and both decide to move on?

I would be willing to bet that if you and Sir did the personailty test here:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

You would fall at polar opposite ends

Me, I'm an INTP

INTP
Introvert(38%) iNtuitive(62%) Thinking(53%) Perceiving(34%)
You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (38%)
You have distinct preference of Intuition over Sensing (62%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (53%)
You have moderate preference of Perceiving over Judging (34%)

Great day for you Pat…………..now the wait for your SVR’s. It’s a bit surreal not having to take the meds every night.