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Good for you lizziechan. Agree with you, why wait until you continue to feel worse, and end up with a less favourable prognosis for treatment? After lying pretty dormant for so long, my symptoms seem to have ramped up a bit in the last 2-3 years. The only other option if they eventually get onto the PBS is wait for your disease progression to worsen sufficiently to the point of being eligible for treatment. I can’t see how anyone could believe this was tenable when there is an alternative.
Definitely onward and upward…all the best with your treatment lizzie.
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
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ALT 26“We’re seeing Gilead trying everything it can to squeeze every last drop of profit out of some middle-income and high-burden countries, and millions of people with hepatitis C will have to pay the price”, said Malpani. “We are urging Gilead to make urgent changes to its company policies and its licensing agreements so that millions of people with hepatitis C are not left behind.””
And the Australian Government still expects to succeed playing hardball against a company happy to steamroll every country, regardless of critical patient need and affordability?
inch:
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
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ALT 26Exactly berrinice…in all their fruitless attempts to ‘game’ Gilead’s price down
Did no one in the PBAC stop to realise that no other first-world country has been successful in breaking them down on price to achieve universal access? Obviously not – they seem inexplicably blinkered on this completely obvious fact.
So we are condemned to another familiar round of “Just wait, it will be next Feb, for sure this time!”
While those in a bad way get sicker. And expect a company which makes billions in profit to make a special, one-off case for Australia…its barely conceivable that they can be so blind to the truth.
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
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ALT 26Having read your thread detailing what you have to deal with on the NHS Alsdad…..
Australia’s system might have a few faults but damn you are behind the 8 ball in so many ways…this is great news for you guys
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
AST 26
ALT 26Thanks lizziechan. I think you’re right, probably best to approach them when you already have the meds in hand…will get my GPs opinion, see what she advises.
Glad that things are going well for you at St Vincents
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
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ALT 26That really is outstanding max…good on you. I’m sitting here with a few of those weird “stinging” pains in the vague location of my liver (the ones a GP once told me couldn’t possibly be from Hep C lol) and I’m wondering what it would be like not to have them anymore. Hopefully I will find out soon enough!
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
AST 26
ALT 26Sure Paul, will do. I should have my first GP consult sometime tomorrow, I’ve only let her know about treatment in a brief phone message. Both of us have got a bit of time to get up to speed though…a lot to take in
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
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ALT 26tweakmax wrote:Quick update: discomfort in liver area is gone by day 2.
Less bloated now on day 3.
Dry throat…very dry….and lymph nodes feel a bit of discomfort….but overall is ok
Still have cold sweat….will drink more water
Good to hear you’ve had a fast reponse and are feeling a bit better…and its very early days huh
All the best tweakmax
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
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ALT 26Good idea CJ. Yes I’m not anticipating any problems either, but it would be good to have access to a bit of backup, even if you don’t end up needing it. It must very hard having a sick child, I wish you and your son all the best for a successful treatment…I’m sure he will do fine.
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
AST 26
ALT 26Apparently RPA has been acommodating to certain patients who have accessed meds privately, but it seems to be predicated on their “triage-level of need”, ie those a bit worse off clinically – I was told no you don’t need to look at generics, just wait for the PBS scheduling (which will never be accessible for everyone across the board, imo)
But now I am in the very fortunate position of being able to obtain DAAs, maybe I should just go back and put them on the spot about it – they can only refuse to support me – in which case it will be up to me & my GP.
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
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ALT 26klhilde wrote:”James-Freeman-facebook” wrote:- How Hep C has impacted on you and your family
- The mental torment of knowing cure exists but is unavailable
- Your views on the Buyers Club and parallel imports being facilitated by others
- Your views about Big Pharma pricing
- Your suggestions about what Government can do to help (without breaking the budget)
There is no doubt that every politician as well as every relevant agency or bureaucratic body would actually love to help everyone with this disease. There is also no doubt that treating everyone in need at Gilead’s prices would put serious pressure on the health care budget.
But there is one thing that can be done NOW …. IMMEDIATELY!
It will cost the government next to nothing, and has to potential to save the taxpayers millions upon millions of dollars. It will require no negotiation with Gilead or other patent holders, and require no new legislation. And it will have the added bonus of putting pressure on Gilead and the others to come to the table with a better offer.
The resistance of doctors to the idea of prescribing generics and the reluctance of clinics to overseeing the treatment should be addressed clearly and unequivocally.
The government and all relevant agencies should draft an Official Policy Statement, publish it, send copies of it to all relevant health care providers and their clinics, and get the word out through the media with all necessary repetition to be sure people get the message.
The Official Policy Statement should make these three points, clearly and unequivocally:
1) All doctors and clinics are free to prescribe generics to their patients and to oversee the treatment with generics with no fear of reprisal, censure or other negative repercussions.
2) All patients are free to source and import up to 90 days of generic medications for their own use with no fear of reprisal, censure, or other negative repercussions.
3) Individuals, doctors, clinics, pharmacies, philanthropic entities, etc. are free to assist patients in the sourcing, importing, testing, compounding and shipment of these generics, provided they are doing so with no financial gain in the purchasing transaction, and can do so with no fear of reprisal, censure or other negative repercussions.[/quote]
Could not have put it better, klhilde…this is the absolute crux of the matter.
That no Western govt has yet or can afford to subsidise the new antivirals for all those infected, no matter what “recommendations” the PBAC suggest, or how insistent the various arms of the Hep C ‘industry’ are that we will have across-the-board, unfettered public access to the proprietary medications – it is never going to happen.
So what is the only logical and valid recourse left to Government? Considering this medical miracle of a virus cure with such a success rate, and so few side-effects needs to be available to the largest number, at the earliest opportunity…that to withold this is only adding to the burden of suffering for all affected.
The Govt needs to bite the bullet and take action….,to not be dictated to by the financial managers of pharmaceutical companies, to the detriment of its own citizens – and make the announcements and necessary legislative amendments for the import and use of generics now.
Its going to be politically unpalatable to say the least! But shouldn’t the Government be on the side of its constituency?
Particularly when there is unequivocally NO other solution, other than a heavily-triaged system which will not include even a fraction of those infected with the disease, as happens now in comparable countries like the UK and Canada.
If the Govt wishes to uphold their stated goal of universal treatment for all, there is no other way except through the generics.
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
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ALT 26That does seem like a very reasonable way to go about it, rather than trying to titrate the dose down Paul…which is gonna be an inexact science heh Cheers for the suggestion!
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
AST 26
ALT 26Interesting question re weight and dosage, thanks for the feedback everybody. I’m 53kg and 5’7″ so in that lightweight category: talking with Dr Freeman yesterday he suggested a possible slight drop in dosage for daclatasvir at least until a bit of tolerance had been reached might be needed – of course eveyone’s individual mileage may vary when it comes to personal side effect response. Will have to judge it when the time comes
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
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ALT 26Bloot wrote:It is indeed a no brainer
I pay for my own treatment saving the government $85 000
Big pharma aren’t holding heppers and the government to ransom
That’s what i call a win/ winUnless of course the government wants to pander to Gilead and their shareholders
In which case they prove they have no brainYeah that’s my concern too Bloot.
All they have to do is tweak a small element of legislation and groups like the Buyers club cease to have a legal avenue.
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
AST 26
ALT 26Paul-Jarman-facebook wrote:Now this looks like something that governments and health insurers around the world have been hoping for.
http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2015/10/study-suggests-unprecedented-3-week-hepatitis-c-cure
Does look promising, especially if Govts were leaning towards the 8wk regimen anyway. Anything to make it more attractive to the bureaucratic purse.
GT1a since 1988, diagnosed 1990
F0, tx naive
VL 262,000 ALT 40 AST 26 GGT 13 Fibroscan 04/12/15 – 2.9
Started Mesochem sof/dac 12 weeks 01/01/2016
11/02/2016 – 6 weeks UNDETECTED
AST 26
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