Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me

TOPIC:

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15321

I bought a Volcano vaporizer about 5 years ago. I feel that vaping reduces the tar intake, but does nothing in terms of gum tissue. Even edibles don't help. It's an off topic but THC suppresses saliva production, which causes gum damage. Even people prescribed Marinol have this problem. It's not smoking that ruins yours gums, or the heat, it's the THC. This is a big problem that gets no press. Lose your teeth, and you can get all kinds of heart problems and infections. It's the dirty secret of pot.
Gt 1a, F0, VL 6.5 million, AST 59, ALT 62
Started Twinvir 1/15/16
6 wk. labs VL UND, AST 27, ALT 20
EOT labs VL UND, AST 23, ALT 19
SVR 16, VL UND, AST 28, ALT 17
SVR 24 , VL UND, 10/8/16
SVR 125, VL UND, 9/22/18
SVR 230, VL UND, 10/3/20
The following user(s) said Thank You: mgalbrai, flyingfox66

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Greedfighter.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15322

Wow! Thats very interesting!
Gum problems is me, thats for sure.
I'd appreciate any links you might have to this issue.
It certainly is a big downside :ohmy:
edit : Actually never mind about the links, the internet is full of info on this.
Thanks again though, for the heads up.
F49HepC25ysGT1a
"mild"
Harvoni 12 wks
Brisbane, Australia
The following user(s) said Thank You: mgalbrai, Greedfighter

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by flyingfox66.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15323

Well here is one I just found on Google

sensiseeds.com/en/blog/cannabis-give-cotton-mouth/

There are more. But just to reiterate, I had the same dry mouth problems from ingesting cannabis without smoking. It's caused by the THC.

Believe me, I love THC :cheer: :+1: But I gave it up after reading so much about it. You won't have any teeth left if you keep using it!! :( :-1:
Gt 1a, F0, VL 6.5 million, AST 59, ALT 62
Started Twinvir 1/15/16
6 wk. labs VL UND, AST 27, ALT 20
EOT labs VL UND, AST 23, ALT 19
SVR 16, VL UND, AST 28, ALT 17
SVR 24 , VL UND, 10/8/16
SVR 125, VL UND, 9/22/18
SVR 230, VL UND, 10/3/20
The following user(s) said Thank You: flyingfox66

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Greedfighter.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15324

Ahhh..
My "great gums" secret...
Everywhere I go, people say " Man! You've got an awsome set of gums".,,.
Silver lining I guess.
Quite a few fillings though.
Can't have everything.
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
The following user(s) said Thank You: Greedfighter

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15327

Mike you are lucky if you smoked a lot. My gums have been quite damaged from it.
Gt 1a, F0, VL 6.5 million, AST 59, ALT 62
Started Twinvir 1/15/16
6 wk. labs VL UND, AST 27, ALT 20
EOT labs VL UND, AST 23, ALT 19
SVR 16, VL UND, AST 28, ALT 17
SVR 24 , VL UND, 10/8/16
SVR 125, VL UND, 9/22/18
SVR 230, VL UND, 10/3/20
The following user(s) said Thank You: mgalbrai

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15329

I wore it out in my younger days.
But those days are long gone.
I had no clue about gum damage due to pot.
I feel for you and the others who are suffering.
Anything that messes with eating is horrible. That I know first hand. When the reflux hits, I am wasted for two days.
Think cookies or brownies would be OK or is it the chemicals in the blood?
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by mgalbrai.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15331

  • CJ
  • CJ's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 373
  • Thank you received: 419
Nowadays it's every couple of years or so. I have noticed that I've become VERY sensitive to it. Is it because my liver has (had?) more cannabinoid receptors?

I hear it's got much stronger these days. Because of hydroponics? Maybe that's why?
x
J the young dragon slayer is:
HepC 1a since birth
Male aged 15
VL 2000000
Started Twinvir/ 10-11-15-then Sof/led.
NO sides so far !
after one week VL : 37
after 4 wks VL : UND !
EOT 2/2/16 UND.!
4 wks. post tx results....pending....
7/3/16 VL result : 4 week post tx: SVR !
12 weeks SVR !
24 wks SVR yeeaa!!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by CJ.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15332

It's actually just the THC itself that is the big problem. People eating brownies. etc. will have the same problems. Fortunately, even though my gums have been damaged, I stopped in time to avoid any long term pain or infection problems. I just have a lot of gum recession. But not a health problem since I stopped in time.
Gt 1a, F0, VL 6.5 million, AST 59, ALT 62
Started Twinvir 1/15/16
6 wk. labs VL UND, AST 27, ALT 20
EOT labs VL UND, AST 23, ALT 19
SVR 16, VL UND, AST 28, ALT 17
SVR 24 , VL UND, 10/8/16
SVR 125, VL UND, 9/22/18
SVR 230, VL UND, 10/3/20
The following user(s) said Thank You: mgalbrai

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Greedfighter.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15334

Happy you got it figured out in time.
I wasn't making light of your condition. It's just my weird sense of humor.
We need a "foot in mouth" emoji...
with big feet.
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
The following user(s) said Thank You: Greedfighter

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15336

  • Gaj
  • Gaj's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
  • Optimist :-)
  • Posts: 1436
  • Thank you received: 3082

I hear it's got much stronger these days. Because of hydroponics? Maybe that's why?


Yes, it is definitely much stronger mostly due to selective breeding of the best strains, hydroponics just makes that easier to do but even with 'homegrown' people tend to use the seeds from the best quality they or their friends have smoked lately. So we are continually selecting for more potent strains.
G3a since '78 - Dx '12 - F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx - PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx - Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx - 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 - 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 - 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 - 26/10/17 UND
:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Gaj.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15337

No problem. If I had not smoked, I would have drank a lot more and probably had cirrhosis by now. So better to have some gum recession than serious health problems. I feel blessed at this point in time, I really do. I have no regrets. I'm lucky, all things considered.
Gt 1a, F0, VL 6.5 million, AST 59, ALT 62
Started Twinvir 1/15/16
6 wk. labs VL UND, AST 27, ALT 20
EOT labs VL UND, AST 23, ALT 19
SVR 16, VL UND, AST 28, ALT 17
SVR 24 , VL UND, 10/8/16
SVR 125, VL UND, 9/22/18
SVR 230, VL UND, 10/3/20
The following user(s) said Thank You: mgalbrai

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Greedfighter.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15338

Sensemilla-
An Arkansas specialty. Get rid of all the male plants. The females go nuts...
Very potent THC levels....
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15339

  • beaches
  • beaches's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • The life you save will be your own. START TREATMENT
  • Posts: 760
  • Thank you received: 2254

mgalbrai wrote: Sensemilla-
....


Latin for without seeds. Literally. True
Genotype 1a
Diagnosed in 2004, had HCV for all my adult life. Until 2016!!!!
Harvoni treatment, started 19 March 2016
4 week results Bilirubin 12 down from 14 pre treatment,
Gamma 25 down from 52, ALT 19 down from 63, AST 19 down from 47,
VL <15 down from a lazy 6 million or so

EOT Results
Bilirubin 10, GGT 18, ALT 19, AST 21, VL UND

12 Weeks post EOT
Bilirubin 11, GGT 16, ALT 22, AST 20, VL UND
Cured baby
The following user(s) said Thank You: mgalbrai

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15345

It's not about the receptors but the signaling (or lack of) from the receptors.

Receptor expression is usually dynamic - chronic stimulation of receptors often results in decreased numbers of receptors, while under- stimulation causes an increase in the number of receptors. Activation of receptors may also cause modification of receptors to a point where even mild stimuli cause substantial responses. Such changes are not necessarily just alterations in numbers of receptors - types and activities of receptors may also change. Over- or under-stimulation of one receptor can also have profound effects on other receptors.

Things that activate CB1 receptors:
1. Endocannabinoids produced by your own body.
2. Synthetic man-made cannabinoids (like some meds)
3. Plant cannabinoids like marijuana.


"up regulation of CB1 is mediated by increased interferon (IFN) signalling in HCV-infected cells."
sydney.edu.au/mbi/PDFs/Shahidi_SEIB%202011.pdf


Endocannabinoid system activation contributes to glucose metabolism disorders of hepatocytes and promotes hepatitis C virus replication.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Endoca...+C+virus+replication.

Elevated Levels of Endocannabinoids in Chronic Hepatitis C May Modulate Cellular Immune Response and Hepatic Stellate Cell Activation
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4425004/


Recent studies have confirmed the links between the downgrading of cannabinoid receptors in the brain and regular cannabis use. In short, introducing external THC creates changes in the brain. As the body loses CB1 receptors, more THC is needed to create the desired effect.

Cannabis harms the brain. It has a negative impact on dopamine.
www.medscape.com/viewarticle/846094?src=trendmd_pilot&faf=1


High-potency cannabis damages key brain structure
www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/303279.php


Cannabis use affects processing of emotions.
"Cannabis appears to have a significant impact on the recognition and processing of human emotions like happiness, sadness and anger"

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/307249.php
The following user(s) said Thank You: jimmy42, Zara

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Price.

Cannabis and HCV 6 years 5 months ago #15346

Greed, weed is associated with insulin resistance and insulin resistance is associated with higher viral load and more rapid damage progression.

P

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.064 seconds

Copyright © 2015-2020 FixHepC

Back to Top