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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12873

Hi all

I have come across an interesting substance for treating liver disease, Squirrel feces, a chinese medicine. Apparently it is widely used in chinese medicine and is TGA approved. In fact all batches are tested by the TGA for any impurities. Is anyone else using/have used it? I wonder what the Doc thinks of it? kindly Berrinice

Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12880

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Hi berrinice,

Do you have any links particularly to the TGA approval?
G3a since '78 - Dx '12 - F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx - PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx - Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx - 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
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SRV12 - 27/07/17 UND
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12886

No I don't have any TGA links. A teaching college supplies it through their student clinic and my friend told me what the qualified teaching Dr said. TGA approved and each batch tested. I don't think they would prescribe it if its not TGA approved. The college has a long standing professional name to protect.
But if anyone can find it as an approved medicine I would really appreciate it. The chinese name is Wu Ling Zhi or squirrel feces. kindly B

Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12889

Squirrel feces? :ohmy: Can't say that sounds v appealing ;-) especially first thing in the morning !
GT1a Dec14 F2/8.7 VL 900000-2.5M
Jan16 Hepcivir-L MonkMed/Redemption
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Wk2 VL1157 Alt 23
DET Wk 8 VL 32 Alt19 'In the slow lane'
June16 Fibro 5.7 F0/1 LIF 1.5
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Extending tx 12 wks Mylan Sofo/Dac MonkMed
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12892

Hahah its not just Squirrel Faeces, but Flying Squirrel Faeces!
Cool!
www.chineseherbshealing.com/flying-squirrel-droppings/
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12893

I guess people wanting to reverse cirrhosis will try anything. Apparently human feces is used to treat colon disease in America don't know about Australia. kindly b
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Okay, the squirrel species is Trogopterus xanthipes Milne-Edwards.

There has been some science done on its droppings though I couldn't find any references to the liver.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3450127

So not as off the wall as it sounds although I suspect TGA approval would be either an extract or synthesis of one of the chemicals present (possibly isopimarane diterpene?) rather that the squirrel poop itself. :sick:
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24wk Tx - PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx - Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx - 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 - 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 - 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 - 26/10/17 UND
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12907

Holy Chinese Flying Squirrel Poop, Batman!!
Wu Ling Zhi is currently banned in the U.S.
Given that, there might be something to it......
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11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
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12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12931

I'm thinking this thread should be under "Fun Stuff and Trivia"

Squirrel Feces? Maybe 20 years ago it could be a help.

I recommend Twinvir :cheer: ;)

or Sofosbuvir & Daclatasvir / Ribavirin depending on your situation! Contact GP2U.com

The upside would be you don't need an RX for Squirrel Feces. :lol:
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SVR 125, VL UND, 9/22/18
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12934

Well, if your in the U.S., you would have to smuggle in your Chinese flying squirrel scat, because the FDA has a ban on it.
I wonder if you can smoke it?
Something about eating tree rat droppings...
even those with a pilot's license...
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G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12935

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1. I'll ask my acupuncturist
2. I have plenty of cat feces you can have really cheap. Postage may be a problem though.
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12936

Maybe in suppository form...
I mean, it should feel right at home in there...
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Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12939

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The rules governing complementary medicines are here:

www.tga.gov.au/publication/australian-re...tary-medicines-argcm

Which says they need to be on the ARTG (Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods)

The ARTG is here:

www.ebs.tga.gov.au/

Click the "Public TGA Information" link on the left, then the "Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods"

Try as I might I can't find "Wu Ling Zhi" listed.....
YMMV
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Squirrel Feces 7 years 8 months ago #12941

:silly: :P


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12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
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2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
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