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Oops! Forgot to say that I made 12 weeks supply!
We must work at the same pace Nadia. It took me about 2 – 2 1/2 hours
I agree, once you get past the starting nervousness it’s as easy as shelling peas.Just so that anyone getting an appointment with a doctor other than their regular one is prepared.
The doctor will want to see your baseline medical info:
1) A full set of blood tests. The consultant at Pall Mall Medical is very thorough on this, and will insist on you getting done any that are missing. Because my NHS Hepatology clinic were being utterly obstructive to my attempts to go down the generics route (I’m still waiting for my case notes which I purchased several weeks ago under the freedom of information laws), I got a full set of tests done at Pall Mall Medical which cost me nearly £300. I’ve attached a copy of the results to give an indication of what’s required.
2) A recent biopsy or fibroscan result, though an ultrasound scan result may be accepted (it was in my case).
3) Any previous or current medical issues, including any current medication. You shouldn’t need documentary evidence of these, just a verbal explanation.
Hi David,
If you have access to the North West, and are prepared to pay a private consultant, contact Pall Mall Medical Clinics (only Manchester or Newton-le-Willows: the consultant at these two is prepared to help) on 0161 832 2111.
Anyway, here is a link to a capsule size chart that I found on Google Image:
Gary, you don’t need to mix the APIs with any excipients, so a size O or OO will do the job. But if you want to mix the APIs with something, lactose is as good as anything else. You will then need the biggest size capsules, OOO, which hold about a gramme of powder.
Greg is now offering 3 months supply of tested and compounded Dac delivered to anywhere in the world for £200 (less in Australia).
You can read about it and contact him here:
http://hepatitisctreatment.homestead.com/generic-harvoni.html
The info is at the end of the 23 September entry.
You won’t find a chemist in the UK who will encapsulate API’s for you LondonGirl, unless you know one who will do it as a personal favour. Here is a more detailed version of my method that Greg asked me to put together for him:
Encapsulating Daclatasvir API into useable form
The Process
1) I bought some ‘precise digital scales’ from myprotein.com, which I first calibrated with a couple of quantified small weights. These scales weigh in increments of 10mg.
2) I then put the Daclatasvir into the big end of pharmaceutical grade gelatin capsules (size 3, which I had check weighed at 40mg), which I had bought from The Alchemists Apothecary on ebay.
3) I then weighed them with the capsule cap loosely fitted. It was trial and error, but I soon got a feel for aproximately the correct amount (60mg + 40mg capsule weight) without having to re-weigh several times.
4) I weighed each batch of 20 filled capsules to check that the total weight was 20×1 dose + 20 capsules, which they were. I did this process 4 times.
5) I followed the same methodology as above (4) to produce 5 more loaded capsules.
6) I check weighed the whole batch, divided the weight by 85 and subtracted 40mg (the capsule weight) from this to triple check that I had the correct dosage per capsule.
7) I pressed all the capsules tight (the large section and cap click together). I then put them into an empty re-sealable vitamin container with a sachet of silica (it helps eliminate moisture from the air in the container).
Notes
1) myprotein.com is a UK company. You should be able to obtain a similar product in most countries. It should be easy to find them by Googling ‘precise digital scales’.
2) If I was to do this again, I would try to find scales that weigh in increments of 1mg if they were not too expensive. This would eliminate the need for so much check weighing (though I would probably still check weigh for peace of mind).
3) The Alchemists Apothecary is also a UK company (you can collect from the ebay counter in Argos stores). But, again, it should be easy to find capsules through Google in your own country.
4) Don’t get the enteric-coated delayed release capsules. This medicine is designed for immediate release in the stomach.
5) This method is best suited to encapsulating individual medicines, but the same process with adjusted dosages can be used for Ledipasvir (90mg) and Sofosbuvir (400mg).
Ha ha! Nanna nap. I like that one.
Still got the myalgia and arthralgia that I had for a couple of years before I started this treatment, but they can be side effects of Sof+Dac anyway. So maybe they improve post-treatment.
The big difference is ‘up top’. I feel much more clear of mind, and don’t get mentally fatigued. Also, I’d been getting increasingly irritable, particularly with my young son who is as as bright as a button and a live wire with it. I’d come to hate myself for being ‘short’ with him, but just couldn’t control it. That seems to have faded now, with a relaxed mentality coming with the clarity of mind.
Just picked up my 15 day NHS blood test results from my GP.
ALP down a bit, still at the higher end of what’s considered normal range.
ALT right down from middle of normal range to lower end.
GGT still high, but down from starting 357 and 5 days previous to latest 194 to 154. Hopefully this trend will continue.Results (with personal info redacted) attached.
I think it’s about 300 quid for a private fibroscan. It’s a shame you weren’t on the forum last week. There was a ‘love your liver roadshow’ event in Oxford last Thursday (free fibroscans, just turn up and wait your turn) if you could’ve got there. They have events coming up in Wigan and Norwich, but no dates set yet.
Greg has info about some private consultants in the UK who are amenable to our predicament. Obviously, you have to pay them (£225 to £250 for a consultation), and you need to go prepared (as per Dr Freeman’s info in the relevant thread here). If you can’t provide them with a documented state of your liver, they will insist on you getting the groundwork investigations done privately. But if you get all that info from the NHS and don’t need Riba, just join Dr Freeman’s club.
If you need the Riba and can’t get it on the NHS, buy your Sof through Greg Jefferys: http://hepatitisctreatment.homestead.com/ . You get the Riba free with the Sof.
If you didn’t already know, Greg’s the guy who kickstarted this whole thing (buying hepc generic drugs internationally). If you haven’t read his blog, it’s compulsory reading for us heppers.
It’s an immediate release medicine, and all the excipients are bog-standard ones that don’t do anything more than get the pill into one’s stomach and help it to break up there (you can google each one with the word ‘excipient’ added to find out more).
You can just load the API straight into a pharmaceutical grade gelatin capsule. It’ll do the same job as branded or generic Sovaldi.
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