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Ha! Maybe I should have just stuck with toast for breakfast and steak and 3 veg for dinner!
Gen 3a 30yrs plus
F3-F4
VL 14,000,000
Treatment Naive
Sof/Dac 20.8.15
EOT 18.2.16Thank you so much for taking the time to check this problem out for me, James. It’s been just over a week now without any paw paw and my sides continue to be no where near as bad as what they were. It’s a shame it took 5 months of suffering to find out that eating this fruit was probably the cause of all my problems; having the Daclatasvir build up in my system. At least I should now be able to cruise through the final few weeks of tx in peace.
Big thanks also to Sylvia Price for all her wonderful info she passed on and also for contacting you to raise this issue.
Great people! Great forum!
Gen 3a 30yrs plus
F3-F4
VL 14,000,000
Treatment Naive
Sof/Dac 20.8.15
EOT 18.2.16Hi Jolie and thanks for replying, along with all the others who are offering their stories and advise. You are right, everyone experiences different effects from the virus and the meds. For me, I was lucky to live the last 30+ yrs with HCV almost symptom free, except for some recent pain over the last few years in the gall area and a feeling of swelling of the liver (which has disappeared since starting the meds) but I rarely felt unwell through the years even though my VL has been over 10 mil. Ive known about having the virus for 25 years and feel the way I have treated my body since finding out has helped me; diet, exercise and no alcohol. After reading the comments on this thread, especially the one from Enkel, I have come to realise that my sides may in fact be related to some nervous system issues which are probably caused by the virus and also possibly amplified by the meds. As I mentioned, in a lot of ways these symptoms Im having; palpitations, vibrations, anxiety, muscle twitches, etc, since starting treatment mirror the benzodiazepine withdrawals I had 10 years ago, which is a nervous system reaction. This occurred after only taking a very low dose of temazepam for a relatively short period of time. Doctors were surprized I was suffering so much for what I took. I now put that easy addiction down to possibly having a compromised NS from HCV to start with. I have also noticed over the years, an increasing sensitivity to stress, some foods and and most drugs. Sleep has also been a problem since starting tx and I’m sure it doesn’t help with the symptoms and the symptoms dont help with trying to sleep, a vicious circle. And even though I have been taking the occasional half dose of temazepam to deal with it, something I thought I would never go back to doing, Im very wary about doing so and dont wish to aggravate things with another benzo addiction. I’d rather do my best with meditation techniques most nights and just deal with not much sleep. I think the main thing is to keep your eyes on the prize and hopefully things will turn around again once treatment is over.
PS: GAJ, I have been drinking 3 liters of purified water every day. Any more and I feel I’ll spring a leak!
Thanks again to all who replied. It’s been a most informative thread for me.
Billy
Gen 3a 30yrs plus
F3-F4
VL 14,000,000
Treatment Naive
Sof/Dac 20.8.15
EOT 18.2.16That is interesting, Enkel. As I mentioned in my last reply to GAJ, the sides I’m getting are very similar to Benzo withdrawals, which is a breakdown in the nervous system. Is there any literature anywhere on this?
Im wondering, if you reach undetectable at 5 weeks why your symptoms would be just as bad at week 15?
Bill
Gen 3a 30yrs plus
F3-F4
VL 14,000,000
Treatment Naive
Sof/Dac 20.8.15
EOT 18.2.16Thanks G, I will look around here for sure, it’s always good to see whats going on with others and there are so many good news stories these days with the new DDAs. Ive spent a lot of time reading over the last year or so, trying to get a handle on whats happening out there, thats how I came across Greg Jefferys just as he was doing his India visit.
I am under a great hepatologist and nurse at a major hospital. I’m taking an Indian generic Sof, the Dac I qualified for through the hospital. It was looking like I would get the Sof through the hospital at one stage as well but good o’l Gilead pulled the plug on their compassionate access program before it even started. At least BMS and Abbvee have come through.
Funny you should say that about the half tabs of Temaz that you kept ready beside you for insomnia as I do exactly the same thing, though I often avoid them for too long trying to get back sleep by myself and then it becomes pointless when dawn is almost there. Plus I try not to do more than 3 nights in a row if I do take them and also skip night between if I can. I only really take them when desperate from being totally worn out. I have gone through stages of getting 5-6 hrs sleep some weeks and thats enough to get by but most of the time I have shockers where Im lucky to get an hr or two at the beginning and then its all over. When the palpitations are bad it’s almost impossible to sleep much even with half a temaz. I wont take more though as I leant my lesson a while back while traveling. I took a half or a whole 5mg every day for a month and ended up with withdrawals for a few months after and that wasn’t a nice experience. Its actually very similar to what I’m going through some days right now! Haha! Just got to roll with it I guess.
Bill
Gen 3a 30yrs plus
F3-F4
VL 14,000,000
Treatment Naive
Sof/Dac 20.8.15
EOT 18.2.16Like a ‘whooshing’ feeling in chest area
I meant to add in my post how I also have a strange hollow feeling in my chest most of the time but ‘hollow’ isn’t the best description. In fact I can’t really describe it at all. It almost feels like somewhere in my wind pipe in the last half of breathing in. And besides the palpitation and extra beat issues mentioned in my post reply, I also get occasional slight tremors, like vibration in there as well which aren’t painful, just weird. I get chest pain also but Im almost certain this is more minuscule skeletal pain as when I twist and arch it hurts in my ribs and sternum area. I think it’s from laying on my surf board but I never started getting it until I started the meds. I must be going mad!
Gen 3a 30yrs plus
F3-F4
VL 14,000,000
Treatment Naive
Sof/Dac 20.8.15
EOT 18.2.16Thanks for your reply GAJ, maybe it was you concerning the late Rib add. Insomnia and fatigue have me clutching at straws right now trying to decipher posts and replies.
I have come across another person having similar sides to mine and have been told about others from a nurse and she told me there was an Australian guy who recently posted here but I cant find it.
I did read the stuff on the amiodarone patients. It’s hard to tell at this stage what cardio effects, if any, are occurring out there. I didnt have issues like this before starting and they have been with me for the whole 15 weeks. Whether its the drugs or my body changing due to the virus dying, or some other freaky coincidence, I dont really know, but I’d like to. In a way I hope it is the meds, because then when I finish they will hopefully go away. Don’t think I would have survived Interferon that’s for sure!
Cheers
Billy
Gen 3a 30yrs plus
F3-F4
VL 14,000,000
Treatment Naive
Sof/Dac 20.8.15
EOT 18.2.16I just joined this forum after being told there was an Australian guy who was suffering sides similar to mine but I have not found his post yet. I ran straight into yours, so thought I would reply. I’m on some other forums but yet to post my story here.
Firstly I want to say that your sides almost mirror my own – palpitations/pounding, etc, especially at night. Im fatigued, feel unwell off and on, drugged out, anxious, insomnia, mostly due to the heart pounding I think. I’m into week 15 of 24 Sof/Dac and it hasn’t been easy from the start. A few days after beginning tx the pounding started, anxiety, panic attacks mostly due to not knowing what was happening and thinking I was going to have a heart attack. Anxiety and panic attacks are not as frequent but still happen. I also have episodes of extra heart beats or brief uneven rhythm which adds to the anxiety.
I am physically fit, I’m a surfer, not on any other meds and overall have been very well living with a very high VL of hep c for over 30 years. Long story short, I have been to see a Cardio to investigate these new heart issues. Ive had ecg’s, eco cardiogram stress test, 24 hr holter monitor, even a CT scan. All were fine, although unfortunately I did not experience an event during the stress test, ecg’s or holter monitor, as I have outside of the tests. Most irregular beats or rhythm issues have occurred while surfing when my heart rate is up but not always. My cardio can’t see any thing wrong, all bloods are perfect. The only thing he thinks might be effecting the extra beat issues (feels like skipped beats) is my blood pressure is just on the low side of normal, usually around 110/70 and could contribute to experiencing episodes when laying down on my board from standing or paddling or getting into bed or in a bath, as these are common times it happens, but its not always at these times that they happen either. Its all very hard to isolate and I think it has to be drug related, along with the palpitations. At this stage Im continuing my tx on my Cardio’s advise but I’m am considering stopping at 16 weeks. Not that I want to but you are the only one that really knows how you feel and things aren’t really improving and dont feel right.
My advise is go and have some tests. I doubt its your blood pressure, just the sides of Sof/Dac tx I’d say. I noticed you’re on Rib now too? Why did you start later on the Rib? There have been reports coming out about isolated serious events on the Sof/Dac combo, mostly with people on other meds or heart meds. Questions are being asked about the heart toxicity of these drugs, especially Sof. Unfortunately, It may be a while before we get some real world data on these new wonder drugs.
Wishing you all the best.
Bill
Gen 3a 30yrs plus
F3-F4
VL 14,000,000
Treatment Naive
Sof/Dac 20.8.15
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