They are talking here that vaccine efficacy could last a year. That’s the hope. Natural immunisation from the virus less than that. Nobody actually knows yet, but to assume you are immune because you’ve had covid19 could be a mistake. I mean, what a bummer to get it twice.

I quote your words about cinchona from another thread:
“About 10 days in, I sought out and found Cinchona tablets, and some rather powerful low sugar high quinine tonic water, and perhaps it was placebo effect, but I began to feel better within a very short time after starting the Cinchona and tonic combination.”

I’m reading all kinds of warnings about cinchona but with your recommendation and the advice of a herbalist I’d give it a try.

It has been so interesting hearing about how it is going over your way and what people are trying. They are really not trying anything here except to make a vaccine. It feels like we are all still horror-struck by the images out of Italy of zombies on ventilators dying en masse. It is refreshing to hear a bit of can-do out of the US, and Tasmania.

dointime

I really do hope that Indomethacinis is effective enough to stave off a visit to the ICU. I’ve put my order in to a trusted source which requires no prescription but unfortunately takes a long time to ship because of not many planes flying.

I heard that Trump had an interest in hydroxycloroquine but I don’t know if that is true.

I hadn’t heard about the micro-clots issue so that’s interesting. Man is this virus scary. Here in the UK there are no cures being touted, just a hopeless procession of high figures for daily death toll and infection rate and politicians who dropped the ball and are destitute of answers. Going to a medical facility has as much chance of killing you as curing you. It’s bad, bad, bad and no letup in sight until an effective vaccine is available.

dointime

Anyway, I think you’ve been here long enough to be made a moderator too so take care with the extra buttons. The pay is terrible and the hours are awful.

Doc Freeman,
Thanks but I don’t want to be a moderator. Could you undo it please?
Best wishes
dt

Those are the results of the test. They do not mean the range of the test. That is not stated as it also wasn’t for DTs test result.

Gaj, Mike’s PCR report does in fact state the range of the test. It says:
“The quantitative range of the assay is 15 IU/ML to 100 million IU/ML”

This is what I would expect to see on any PCR report. In fact, I’ve never seen a PCR report that didn’t have it, until now.

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Anyway, I now have an answer – of sorts – to the issue. Many thanks to those who contributed this information.

The Doctor’sLab (TDL) says that the LLOQ for their test is 12 IU/ML.
The fact that my intermediary (Medichecks) did not put this on my report is because TDL did not provide it to them.
I can’t get a satisfactory answer as to why TDL didn’t provide it, or if they ever provide it, eg. on their PCRs which show DET rather than UND. It is also not displayed on their website.

So, it is what it is.

There are implications to this for anybody seeking to get a private PCR done in the UK. TDL is a major provider of this test. It is used by several private blood services and private consultants. If you get a private PCR in the UK then the chances are that it will be done by TDL. So – you could, like me, get a report that does not contain the quantitative range of the assay, (no LLOQ).

My understanding is that TDL are a perfectly good provider and their LLOQ of 12 is fine for just about all purposes.
However, I’d urge anybody who wants the LLOQ and doesn’t get it on their report, to contact TDL and ascertain for themselves the LLOQ for their test.

dt

Hi Sir,

Have you just caught up with this conversation? – a day late and a dollar short, as they say.
Maybe get yourself into the ballpark first, then we’ll have something to talk about.
dt

I have now found this on The Doctor’s Lab website under “H” but I can’t find any more info on it, ie. the LLOQ.
http://www.tdlpathology.com/test-information/a-z-test-list/h
Please anybody, have a go. Your search skills may be better than mine.

Hepatitis C Quantification (Viral Load)
Code Sample Reqs Turnaround
QPCR A 5 days

At least they do a quantification test and the turnaround is fast. I was beginning to fear that they didn’t, and Medichecks had made a really big blunder and got mixed up with the qualitative test. Still seeking an LLOQ though. That there is one is not in doubt. Getting it ….. something else.
dt

Here’s the thing –

I did the PCR test via Medichecks, one of the private blood test services that does not require you to have a doctor’s request. They advertise the test as an HCV QUANTITATIVE test. Now on looking at The Doctors Lab website found by isaing4, all I can find is the QUALITATIVE PCR test.

So ideally, and for the sake of LG and those with the same requirements, I still want to know if Medichecks is simply advertising their test wrongly, or if there is also a QUANTITATIVE test done by The Doctor’s Lab that isn’t showing up on their website? I hate to phone and get a jobsworth on the line. Just too frustrating.

One thing for sure – it’s not OK to pay for a QUANTITATIVE PCR test, and the one that is run is QUALITATIVE. The figures that isaing4 found should not apply to the test that I ordered.
My report from Medichecks says quite clearly that it is QUANTITATIVE.

Watch this space ………
dt