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You may like to try reducing the dose of Daclatasvir to 30 mg for 1-2 days. If you find your side effects seem to moderate that would suggest that for your small size the 60 mg dose is just a bit too big. Increase it back to 60 daily and if the side effects come back you could call that a smoking gun.
You are, by weight, getting twice the mg/kg dose somebody of 100 kg gets, so such an experiment is unlikely to cause any harm.
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Hi Maz,
Getting the meds to Costa Rica is doable.
The suggested workup tests are listed here: http://fixhepc.com/forum/forum-gp-cheat-sheet.html
For a person in reasonable health simply taking the medication and checking for SVR is not unreasonable. They are, in the scheme of things, very clean medications with minimal side effects in most people.
Patients who are unwell need all the workup listed.
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Sadly most of the free programs are marketing, and much less actually treating.
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They all look (are) normal.
It’s possible there is something in the Chinese HRT that is interacting so stopping that is a good idea. The others are harmless, although fish oil does not give the benefits of real fish.
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Hi Em So glad to hear you are well. Enjoy your trip up North (I hate heat and humidity so tend to go to cooler places when I do a trip). All good here in Bendigo (albeit bloody cold!!!) I am keeping well and of course am ever grateful to James and his team. I don’t post often but do visit the Forum regularly.
Cheers Lynne
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I only weight 115 pounds
We have seen in people around 50 kg or below side effects that clearly related to 60 mg of Daclatasvir being just a little more than was required.
The one size fits all dosing seems OK in the 55 kg and up people, but can cause issues with small people.
Same question as before – Sof+Dac or Sof+Vel?
Do you know your renal function?
Are you taking any other medications, supplements, energy drinks, or other things (including foods) every day?
Daclatasvir metabolism is reduced by a number of foods of which Grapefruit is the most likely culprit, given it’s a common breakfast food/drink.
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Hello 2bornot2b,
26 is ok. About 22% of people return a reading greater than undetected at the 4 week mark. It’s nothing to panic about but does require consideration.
In the original trials <25 was the standard (that was the best we had). We now have better tests that go down to <15, <12 and even <10. I still get some <30 results.
The significance for you is that of patients that fail to SVR 44% will still be detected at this point (like you) against 22% in the group that do SVR.
This produces an Odds Ratio (OR) of around 2. Without boring you with the maths too much the chances of success with GT2 are very high - probably genuinely around 97% so there is a 3% failure rate
For you, being still detected that 3% and OR of 2 looks like a 6% failure rate. Still good odds at about 94% but slightly lower than a patient who is undetected at 4 weeks.
In our data we have saw 32/448 patients still detected at end of treatment. Even then 75% (24/32) still went on to SVR. Your result is much better than theirs.
So what we have seen is a slightly less speedy response from you. It is still a very good response, just a little slower. What it means is that there is going to be less over-treatment buffer in the last 4 weeks or so than there is for someone who has fallen faster. You can probably imagine a faster response gets to absolute zero faster, and that's when we win.
One option to consider would be to add in 4 weeks of extra treatment. You should not need more than that.
What you don't mention is whether you are you on Sofosbuvir+Velpatasvir or Sofosbuvir+Daclatasvir?
We have 38/38 SVR12 with Sof+Dac but the results for Vel are still waiting for enough time to have passed.
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You did take the road less travelled Paul. After failing on round 1 we resorted to the if it sticks force it, if it breaks it needed replacing anyway approach, otherwise known as get a bigger hammer!
We got there in the end but I reckon you should have rattled at EOT.
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Hi Emilio,
Great to see you passing through!
As I recall you were the first patient here to breach anonymity and actually show your face.
It seems a bit more normal now, but at the time, I went
here’s a bloke with cojones.
Thanks for all the assistance you provided back in the early days when we were all making it up as we went along.
It’s come a fair way since then, and a couple of weeks ago we presented to EASL again – after Merck and before Gilead with their new 6-12 yo study. It turned out pretty good in the end.
http://fixhepc.com/blog/item/79-easl-2017-generics-results.html
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Hi CHRISMR2,
Thanks for your post and sorry to hear about your troubles.
Certainly auto-immune stuff is common with HCV (pre-treatment) and possibly not solved by SVR. Cryo-globulinaemia is something to get looked at.
The forum here is open and censored only for SPAM. As you can see there are about 3000 members and for most people the post-treatment results are good, as in the vast majority of patients report being better. Part of the reason I wanted such a thing to exist was to flag things that might be going under the radar.
One of the things I tell people recurrently is that for a group of patients of average age 55 all the other things related to ageing happen to patients with HCV (treated or not) at the same (or higher rates) than the general population.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4735500/
My personal view is that the combination of Sofosbuvir + Daclatasvir is cleaner than Harvoni (with respect to on treatment side effects), and probably has a slightly higher cure rate. The nature of the trials, focussing on cure/not-cured to keep the costs manageable does not provide the statistical power to say that with certainty, but it is my gut feeling.
Your post will stay here for other people to chip in their comments about their personal experience.
Hope things settle down for you and make sure you get thoroughly checked out.
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It’s great that you’re cured!
Simeprevir is now increasingly hard to find, but on the good news front there are other options and good 3 drug treatment can be done for about $2000/12 weeks with good options – depending on genotype. So in ballpark terms it now cost 1/2 what it did 12 months ago.
Prices should continue to fall but 3 drugs, and longer durations do mean it will never be quite as cheap as the first go with a good 2 drug combo. Most people go well on the 2DT which is nice, but it’s good to know there are stronger things available for the small % that don’t get it done first time round.
The notion is that 12 weeks should be sufficient but I can understand people wanting to overtreat a bit.
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Hep C generics are probably one of the only exceptions to the rule “If it seems to good to be true, it must be”.
In the case of generics, the 100,000% markup on the originator medications is what allows the prices to be 1-2%
Even if you don’t treat, it’s nice to know you could, if you wanted to.
As a patient, it’s got to be a cruel and unusual punishment to know that a cure exists, but not for me.
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3DT – 3 Drug Therapy is the standard of care for another unstable RNA virus, namely HIV
Targeting all of NS3/4A, NS5A and NS5B puts the laws of probability on your side.
If the chances of getting a mutation are 1:1000 (it’s more like 1:10,000) but go with me.
Then the chances of getting another on the same strand of RNA are 1:1,000,000 (1000*1000)
And the chances of getting a third are 1:1,000,000,000
Those odds look pretty dang good.
For retreatment if you can get 3 pretty good agents that target our 3 targets, your chances are really good of getting SVR.
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Congrats, I think it’s fair to say the fat lady is singing.
There are other ladies who sing and weigh in a little over the odds but “I dreamed a dream” seems like a good tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPZh4AnWyk
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