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  • in reply to: Sofosburvir + Daclatasvir Worried about KRATOM usage #29274
    lamussa
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    Christoffer, stop the kratom now. Dr. James mentioned that kratom might increase levels of one of the active ingredients of Epclusa to toxic levels:

    It (kratom) is a potent inhibitor of a number of cytochromes including the CYP3A4 one that metabolised daclatasvir so would be expected to cause daclatasvir toxicity or increased side effects.

    Better not to use any herbal supplements while taking Epclusa unless approved by your treating physician.

    in reply to: Feeling extremely tired while on Maviret #29158
    lamussa
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    On another forum I frequent the most common advice was to make sure to drink a full US gallon of water a day to combat fatigue during treatment. It really does work. I don’t think the hepatologists emphasize hydration enough to patients undergoing treatment. Those of us who have been through treatment have plenty of anecdotal evidence that the full gallon of water a day really helps minimize side effects.

    in reply to: My Epclusa Journey Wk 2 #29157
    lamussa
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    Hi Lisa,

    You are doing well with Epclusa, these new DAAs are powerful drugs. I was one of the minority on Epclusa who experience extreme fatigue throughout treatment. I would not have been able to hold down a job. After treatment I returned to normal and almost a year later now I reached SVR24 and feel fine no problems. Best wishes!

    in reply to: Sofosburvir + Daclatasvir Worried about KRATOM usage #28763
    lamussa
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    Thank you Mar and DrJames. My gastroenterologist told me he prefers prescribing Mavyret and Epclusa now, using Harvoni if dictated by a patient’s insurance. The extreme fatigue I felt while on Epclusa was unusual in his experience and vanished at week ten. I was a fast responder to Epclusa with viral load dropping to 50 in two weeks. All in the past now.

    in reply to: Sofosburvir + Daclatasvir Worried about KRATOM usage #28760
    lamussa
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    ”DrJames” wrote:

    The metabolism of Kratom has been studied.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4425236/

    It is a potent inhibitor of a number of cytochromes including the CYP3A4 one that metabolised daclatasvir so would be expected to cause daclatasvir toxicity or increased side effects.

    It is also an inhibitor of P-glycoprotein, but as you note that is allowed for Epclusa.

    So the answer is a guarded “it should be ok” but…

    DrJames,

    Thanks for your advice. I underwent treatment with 12 weeks Epclusa: had serious fatigue as a side effect, but that was the DAA doing its job, everyone responds differently. Reached SVR24 so cured now. I did discontinue kratom use a month before starting treatment as the jury is still out it seems. Felt so much better after finishing Epclusa I never bothered with kratom again. Thanks for the service you provide to the Hep C community!

    lamussa
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    DrJames:

    How do you feel about low to moderate kratom use while on Epclusa? Prescribing information for Epclusa specifically states that

    EPCLUSA may be coadministered with P-gp, BCRP, and CYP inhibitors.

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