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18 February 2017 at 11:52 am in reply to: Psychoemotional ups and downs. Their associations with hepc #25347
Hello Matt,
Thanks for that post, and if I may return the compliment, it is also very thoughtful. More than that it is both warm hearted and practical.
It’s an extraordinary phenomenon, this forum. The kindness of strangers is something very valuable and probably what makes us human. In a world that can look troubled and unstable it’s vital to hang on to that understanding. It is probably critical to the long term survival of our species, and if that seems like a very big statement it isn’t my fault!
I believe that love is the answer to all problems by which, though I LOVE YOU ALL MY DAAAHLINGS, I mean to say something which is common sense and not (very) gooey. I wish I remembered all this more often but posts like yours remind me, so thanks.
Of course what’s above doesn’t mean we should be tolerant of stupidity, ignorance, prejudice etc. and the cruelty that inevitably follows them. That’s another very good thing about the forum: Myths are regularly debunked, the piss is regularly taken……
I’d love to crack a joke here, but they get misunderstood especially when English may be the common language here but isn’t the mother tongue of all. Anyway, most of my favourites are so politically incorrect, black and utterly tasteless that I tend to be mean with them. Not sure you really would like to meet me at all!
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
18 February 2017 at 10:46 am in reply to: Cimivir-l purchased in India/ Other medical judgments of Hep. C #25345Hello Gert,
That’s great news and I’m happy for you. You can see that a life free of this nasty problem is possible and actually very likely. Well done for taking responsibility for your own health and making something happen.
I think that’s so important for all of us. Just the idea of taking back control or maintaining it is empowering. Doing it is even better.
Public health care systems are fantastic but can have an unfortunate side effect which is that people can begin to think that their health is mainly the concern of other people and therefore do little to help themselves. I am not saying this applies to anyone who has recently posted and certainly not to you but it needs to be said anyway.
This is because thinking like a victim is bad for your health whether psychological or physical. In the end there may not be much difference between these two because the mind informs the body and the reverse is also true. Here’s a curious fact, known to most on this forum: Hepc is strongly associated with depression and anxiety. Now what do we think that is all about? One thing we can say with certainty is that if either of these mental states leads to self neglect the result will not be good….
A guy called Bernie Siegel, who is or was a doctor wrote a great book called “Love, medicine and miracles”. It is good reading and shows, among other things, that a positive attitude coupled with visualisation techniques can lead to better patient outcomes in conventional medicine. He wasn’t being airy fairy or even alternative.
Have a good day everyone,
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
Hi Beaches and everyone,
Perhaps it is useful to look at this in context? A score of 4.2 is fine but 6.0 isn’t all that bad either. In the UK the point at which NHS guidelines advise treatment is 5.9 and that is a bit arbitrary anyway. But this test is approximate and only measures total blood cholesterol levels, that is both HDL’s and LDL’s. To understand more you have to do a fasting overnight test which will give a figure that is different and far more useful as a guide for prescribing. It is the ratio of HDL’s to LDL’s*.
Having said that, this whole matter is mired in controversy. There is a shortage of direct evidence linking stroke and heart disease with cholesterol levels. Nearly everyone in the field does, however, accept that lower levels are preferable but it is good to understand that pharmaceutical companies have a VERY direct motive in promoting statins (drugs for lowering blood cholesterol levels) and they supply most of the data……
My view is that you should just eat a decent diet, get some exercise and not worry too much about numbers. I expect that will get me into trouble!
Good on you for losing a few pounds. I keep telling myself that I will but it’s difficult in chilly England. Spring will come, or so they tell us.
RSF
*Too complex to be interesting to most of us but if you had nothing to do one evening, you could Google it.
PS It probably isn’t wise to be taking food supplements after EOT unless you really know about them. Adverse effects are possible and your liver has just taken a pasting but will recover all on its own. Perhaps it would be good to see a medical herbalist or a nutritionist? This is a very technical area. R.
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
13 February 2017 at 9:55 am in reply to: HCV drugs made in Asia – news on a Romanian public television #25287Hi RHF,
What a strange tale! I think you are right to be “glass half full” about it, though, because it generates awareness of the issue. Enquiring people may choose to look into it further and as Gaj says you may be able to get the news out there via patient support groups or forums. Do you know any journalists or could you approach one or two with your story – just email them? Perhaps you could use someone else’s story if you don’t want the publicity personally? People find it easier to relate to a real person.Although it is frustrating, I have come to the view that some people just don’t want to do the unconventional thing and source drugs from overseas. There are a couple of people I have encountered on UK forums who seem very upset and worried about their HCV infection but even though you tell them what they can do about it, still do nothing. They seem more comfortable complaining about the inadequacies of the NHS rather than doing something for themselves. Perhaps they are scared? I don’t know.
Good luck anyway,
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
I am just as delighted as everyone else about LG’s fantastic news. Well done girl! You had a bumpy ride compared with some of us.
There’s a bit more good news here folks: I’ve joined the SVR 24 club too. Sweet relief.
If it hadn’t been for you, LG, it may have been quite some time before I stumbled across the good people at Fixhepc. I may therefore have got really ill, which thankfully never happened. Thank you so much. I absolutely mean it when I say that was a kindness I shall never forget, ever.
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
That’s great news Bob,
You must be feeling so good about it. Everyone else will be delighted too.
Best,
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
10 February 2017 at 11:15 am in reply to: Psychoemotional ups and downs. Their associations with hepc #25271Hello Gaj, Coral and everyone,
Thanks for your thoughtful responses. Ignorance is a huge issue: I’ve talked to a few people I know about what has been going on with me and have been surprised to find out that hepc is something most people simply seem to know nothing about. This is scandalous since as we all know it is very widespread. There seems almost to be a conspiracy of silence. I was pleased to see that they had something about it on the rolling screen at my GP surgery the other day. It said “Get tested, get treated” (!). I was forcibly struck by the irony of this, given NHS rationing.
As to the stigma; that’s just inexcusable but worse for me, I suppose, I just don’t understand. Illness is illness. We’ve been through the whole AIDS thing and the tabloids have given up on “The gay plague” or the wrath of God etc. so I naively thought that that way of thinking was dead and buried. From what you and others have said it evidently isn’t, and people can’t help internalising hatred and prejudice so I feel the pain that is being expressed acutely. This is a lot because I am a gay man of a certain age…..All I have ever come to about it is that people need to work some internal alchemy on themselves and realise that they are actually perfectly okay and come to that normal. From that point things are much better and you find out that most decent folk just don’t care. As for those that do, perhaps they are best left to go to hell in their own way?
I can readily see that such feelings of alienation may worsen anxiety and depression but feel that the ‘answer’ lies within ourselves. As to the rest of it: I still have a/d to deal with myself but have been a little better since the positive results of treatment have become known to me. I also take strength and encouragement from the good stories of others, but feel humble in the face of more difficult histories, and have little to offer but love and the knowledge that the odds are in favour of struggling sufferers: Vox is on its way etc. Sheer bloody minded determination to get well helps with almost anything too!
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
8 February 2017 at 11:29 am in reply to: Psychoemotional ups and downs. Their associations with hepc #25247Hi Greedfighter,
Thanks for your post. I think you may have intended it for another thread as this one is primarily about anxiety and depression related to hepc but hope you will continue to enjoy Yard’s Thomas Jefferson Ale for many years to come.
Hi also to LG,
Glad you liked that. I think the issue I have identified is really important and hope to see what a few other people think. It seems timely now as well because every day brings the good news that another of us is free from the virus and we have to pick up the pieces of lives that have been taken over by hepc. It’s good if we do that mindfully rather than drifting. It is a curious thing to say, perhaps, but we have been given an opportunity to make a fresh start and review our lives to date in the light of what we have learned.
Lots of love,
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
6 February 2017 at 2:17 pm in reply to: I don’t understand my bloods results, or my viral load…. #25223Yes I bet it was. Can you relax a bit now?
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
6 February 2017 at 11:23 am in reply to: I don’t understand my bloods results, or my viral load…. #25221Hello Donna,
You must be so relieved. I’m very happy for you. The best of good fortune where your son is concerned – that must be a worry
All good wishes,
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
Hello again Sven,
Well you obviously can’t be sure it will happen but it has with me: I had a LiverMultiScan a month after EOT and they told me that my liver was totally normal in all respects. I was really surprised and obviously very pleased. With a fibroscore of 9.5 Kpa I was F2/F3 two or three months before I started treatment. An LMS is a more sophisticated tool but doesn’t give an exact comparison, however my fibroscore would have been 7Kpa or lower, given the liver was normal, or so I think.
So I don’t see why your doctor shouldn’t be absolutely right. There are other factors involved and there’s more info about fibrosis regression than I can recall now, but you could look it up. Dr F always puts in the caveat that ‘Your mileage may vary’ but perhaps you’ll be just as lucky?
All the best anyway,
RSFPS And I am no spring chicken. Alas I shall be 63 this year and though I can’t be sure, I almost certainly contracted the virus decades ago. RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
That’s fantastic news, Sven and I am really pleased for you.
I have good news too, everyone. Had the results back from 24 week post treatment bloods yesterday AND IT’S ALL GOOD!
Huge thanks to Dr F, all at Fixhepc and all of you!
Glad to see you’re Back, LG, and hope life’s going better. ENORMOUS love to you from chilly Kent.
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
Hi Browny,
Splitdog’s approach seems rational but in the end this is a personal choice and must depend on your attitude and the specifics of your case. It’s probable that the treatment you have already had has allowed your liver to recover to a degree so waiting may not significantly add to your problem. However Dr F has already given a view. It may be best if you have a consultation with one of the doctors on GP2U now. General advice is just that.
As to the availability of vox, I think you can be pretty sure that as soon as it is licensed it will start to be produced as a generic and is therefore likely to become available via Fixhepc, because that has already happened with vel. Of course you can’t be sure of the timing but you could give it a little while and see what happens, perhaps?
You can’t discount what your specialist has said but it is worth bearing in mind that he is operating to PBS guidelines/rules and may advise you differently if those constraints did not apply. One thing does strike me: He has talked to you in terms of 12 week courses of meds whereas I can’t imagine that it wouldn’t be preferable to do 24 if that’s possible.
My personal take can be summed up like this: If in doubt remember what it says on the front cover of ‘The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy’ in large friendly letters and DON’T PANIC! This holds good at all times and in all circumstances. I wish I remembered it more often myself……
All the best,
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
Hi Browny,
I’m very sorry to hear your news, you must feel lousy. But there’s every chance you’ll be alright after retreatment.
All the very best,
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
Hello Jeff,
Going through re-treatment must be very hard, specially because it’s lonely. ‘The pointy end of a spear’ is a shit place to be. But DAAs are clearly the way forward. The treatment you have already had has helped you and your liver is probably in better shape than before you started though the virus still present. Your ultrasound result is OK too so you’ve bought yourself some time.
My little rant was just that, an expression of personal frustration at the results of closed minds, and the cost to real people of such minds particularly when they belong to influential people. Grrrrr.
Warm wishes for 2017 and the finest kind of SVR,
RSF
PS I could put something in here. There is no “alternative” medicine. Just effective medicine.
RSF
G3a. Probably infected 40 years ago.
Diagnosed July 2015
7/7/2015: ALP 69, ALT 209, WBC 5.8, VL 40,000. Fibroscan 9.5 Kpa.
Commenced treatment Sof/Dac (Natco Pharma) 24 wks in Feb 16
VL UND @ 4 wks, 12 wksEOT 6/7/16
SVR 12
SVR 24PHEW! Thank you so much Dr James, Monkmeds and all at Fixhepc
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