Herbs and liver safety

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14 December 2015 at 1:20 pm #6246
flyingfox66
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I appreciate it
I am honestly a bit shocked that I am contemplating taking chemicals at this point. And quite surprised too that science seems to have managed to come up with something really useful for a change. Lets just hope there aren’t too many hidden implications.

F49HepC25ysGT1a
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14 December 2015 at 2:37 pm #6250
Dr James
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And quite surprised too that science seems to have managed to come up with something really useful for a change.

But where’s my hoverboard?

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOH15_pqWZ4[/video]

YMMV
14 December 2015 at 2:41 pm #6251
Jimmy6429
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hm never deal with geeks, they don’t turn up till ten am and then they complain about the coffee machine,,

3 years cured, Sof/Dac, thanks Doc Freeman, hepc only a distant memory, go for it ppl
14 December 2015 at 2:55 pm #6252
Gaj
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flyingfox66 wrote:

So I better not eat any more Aloe Vera…hmmm….some people recommend it specifically for Hep C.
At least I can keep drinking my Dandelion tea during treatment.
Big question is though what about “medical” marijuana with the tx? Is that contraindicated?
Seems like it would help with a lot of the reported sides.

Hi FlyingFox,

If you are going to be taking Daclatasvir then probably better to avoid grass….ahem, “medical” marijuana per below link (4th item listed). My body is a temple until at least the end of April.

http://fixhepc.com/forum/experts-corner/108-daclatasvir-warning-interactions-cyp3a4.html

More seriously, while we need to consider drug interactions I would also recommend that everyone consider whether anything they are taking whether legal, illegal, herbal, over the counter or prescription is necessary for the relatively short time we are treating. Anything that we put into our bodies has to be processed by either our liver or kidneys or both, which will already be trying to process the meds, dispose of dead viral particles and repair the damage that the virus caused over the years. So the less extra workload we put on these organs during treatment the better able they will be to perform these tasks.

Gaj gets off soapbox and goes to find some polish for his halo.

G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
14 December 2015 at 3:13 pm #6253
Jimmy6429
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spot on Gaj, body doesn’t need any greater load whilst its healing eh,

3 years cured, Sof/Dac, thanks Doc Freeman, hepc only a distant memory, go for it ppl
15 December 2015 at 12:23 am #6290
flyingfox66
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Thanks for that link GAJ (and Doc Freeman). Exactly what I needed to know. I’ll give up all my herbs for the duration just in case. Bit sad about the grapefruits though because my tree will have hundreds of them by then.

I’m not a broad spectrum luddite really…I do love my computer, though I’m not sure it’s good for me.

F49HepC25ysGT1a
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15 December 2015 at 3:02 am #6305
Gaj
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I’m missing the grapefruit too.

Oh, and my mobile ‘just makes phone calls’ and the home computer is mostly used as a music server with no screen or keyboard attached……but you’ll only seperate me from my iPad with a chainsaw.

G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
15 December 2015 at 3:20 am #6308
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Here’s your hoverboard.

You’ll really turn heads riding that in your Superdoc costume, doc.
15 December 2015 at 3:26 am #6309
LondonGirl
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I’ve always wanted a hoverboard – Great track!

GT1a Dec14 F2/8.7 VL 900000-2.5M
Jan16 Hepcivir-L MonkMed/Redemption
Baseline: VL 913575 Alt 76 Platelets low
Wk2 VL1157 Alt 23
DET Wk 8 VL 32 Alt19 ‘In the slow lane’
June16 Fibro 5.7 F0/1 LIF 1.5
Wk 11 VL<12 Alt 13 Det/Unq
Extending tx 12 wks Mylan Sofo/Dac MonkMed
Wk 14 VL <12 Det/Unq
Wk 16 VL UNDETECTED
Wk 22 + 4 Wks Sunprevir FixHepC
Wk 24 UNDETECTED Alt 13
Wk 12 post tx SVR12 Wk 26 SVR24
Thank-you Tim, Dr Debasis @ MonkMed & Dr Freeman @ Fix HepC
15 December 2015 at 3:28 am #6311
LondonGirl
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Not the hoverboard for me, too close to the ground and far too wobbly !

GT1a Dec14 F2/8.7 VL 900000-2.5M
Jan16 Hepcivir-L MonkMed/Redemption
Baseline: VL 913575 Alt 76 Platelets low
Wk2 VL1157 Alt 23
DET Wk 8 VL 32 Alt19 ‘In the slow lane’
June16 Fibro 5.7 F0/1 LIF 1.5
Wk 11 VL<12 Alt 13 Det/Unq
Extending tx 12 wks Mylan Sofo/Dac MonkMed
Wk 14 VL <12 Det/Unq
Wk 16 VL UNDETECTED
Wk 22 + 4 Wks Sunprevir FixHepC
Wk 24 UNDETECTED Alt 13
Wk 12 post tx SVR12 Wk 26 SVR24
Thank-you Tim, Dr Debasis @ MonkMed & Dr Freeman @ Fix HepC
14 September 2016 at 6:58 pm #22967
Sven
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Questions about herbs/supplements:
In general taking most every herb or supplements is not advised while on generic Harvoni, however what about drinkng Dandelion tea? It seems to calm me and from what I understand it can reduce inflammation and can soothe liver…..or is this an old wives tale?
If you can drink it how much is too much and what is consdeted moderate?
Thank you.

Contracted HCV 1980’s
Geno Type 1a
F3 ( doc says once treated I’ll be F2 maybe F1)
Meds shipped 6/17/2016 arrived early 7/2016

Viral count – 3,471,080

4 week quantitative bloods: August 17, 2016. I have been diagnosed as <15 (told undetected)

8 week quantitative bloods: September 14th. I have been diagnosed as <15 (told undetected)

11 week PCR RNA Qualitative bloods: September 26th 2016 – Undetected

December 19th 2016: Cured!
Viral count: zero!!!
2018 viral count: still zero!
Cured!
14 September 2016 at 7:34 pm #22969
Tommy
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Medications changed by the liver (Cytochrome P450 1A2 (CYP1A2) interacts with DANDELION
I don’t see how it has a calming effect. It is mostly used as a diuretic. I know you’ll read alot of stuff on the internet saying it helps inflammation but my research on the studies show it isn’t good for anything but a possible diuretic.

Genotype 1A
ALT 473
AST 226
Virus Load 3,119,030
Results as of May-2016
5 week viral load/undetected as of 12/02/2016
Liver Biopsy Results from Feb 2013
Portal/Periportal chronic inflammation and mild interface hepatitis (Grade 2)
Focal Lobular chronic inflammation (Grade 1)
Portal/Periportal fibrosis (stage 1-2 trichrome and reticulin stains utilized)
Negative Iron stains.
14 September 2016 at 11:21 pm #22971
flyingfox66
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I drank a cup of Roast dandelion tea every morning as usual on Harvoni. Didn’t stop me clearing, and as it is my morning cuppa I decided I didn’t want to give it up.
I think it does me a lot of good personally. It is comforting isn’t it, and much more soothing to the digestion in the AM than tea or coffee.

F49HepC25ysGT1a
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15 September 2016 at 4:46 am #22982
Ariel
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LondonGirl wrote:

Not the hoverboard for me, too close to the ground and far too wobbly !

I’m so with you lets stay on the ground LG
As a surfer for over thirty years skateboarder as a kid/teen
NO WAY would I try that thing! Great song yes but that device is so NOT on my wish list ha!
Fun share though Chester however my bones are telling me I am not made of rubber anymore lol!
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