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30 October 2019 at 10:15 am in reply to: Cirrhosis and Resistant Hep C – New Symptoms are they serious? #29537
Hi G,
That all looks in line with expectations.
Your platelets have not changed and we don’t really expect them to. Anything over 50 is enough so your good there. Your liver function has improved a bit which can be seen in the reduction in the INR (clotting time – needs liver made proteins to work properly) and fall in the ALT enzyme back into the normal range.
Things are on track. You’re taking the best medication available for Hep C re-treatment namely Sofosbuvir and Maviret which are the strongest NS5B, NS5A and NS3/4A inhibitors in existence.
How are you feeling?
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Hi Jerry,
Will my liver get better after my treatment?
Yes, we expect your liver to improve
Will it continue to get worse?
No, treatment stops things getting worse and allows your body to start healing
Will the progression of my liver damage slow down or can it stop?
Provided we get you cured your liver damage will stop completely.
Patients vary in how much their liver’s improve but it is not at all unusual to see people move from F4 down through F3, F2 and even get to F1
The single biggest take home about treatment is in this graph:
1/4 the chance of any event, 1/3 the chance of dying, 1/5 the chance of HCC (liver cancer) and 1/10 the chance of liver failure all look like worthwhile benefits to me…
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Hello Sherif,
Ledifos is a generic Harvoni made by Hetero who are one of the better generic manufacturers.
Like Harvoni it is only suitable for genotypes 1, 4, 5 and 6. It does not work well on genotypes 2 and 3.
So, while it is an effective medication, and with F2-F3 a 12 week treatment course will have about a 95% cure rate you do need to know your genotype. Do you know it?
Online pharmacies vary from outright scams, through to people supplying fake products, through to totally honest merchants. It would be a good idea to check your viral load 4 weeks into treatment – there is an 80% chance this will be undetected at this stage.
Best of luck with the treatment and keep us posted here about how things go!
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Hi seedy,
Thanks for the post. It’s great to hear you’ve got rid of the Hep C and have beaten cancer!
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14 October 2019 at 5:45 am in reply to: Cirrhosis and Resistant Hep C – New Symptoms are they serious? #29510Hi G,
If you could post the results as they come to hand that would be great.
The depression with Viekira towards the end was almost certainly a ribavirin side effect so, fingers and toes crossed, it will probably NOT happen this time around.
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1) For preference take Ribavirin all 24 weeks but first 4/8/12 are most important. For my patients with bad side effects I first reduce dose, then stop. I think we reduce or stop for this patient. Ribavirin takes 3 weeks to fall to 1/2, 6 weeks to fall to 1/4, 9 weeks to fall to 1/8 and 12 weeks to fall to 1/16 if stopped on day zero.
2) For GT3 with no Ribavirin problem continue full dose.
General) For 1/3 patients we need to stop Ribavirin. For 1/3 a few side effects but is ok. For 1/3 no side effects.
No special food is required. Eat good food like your mother cooked and all will be well.
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Hypo = less = cyst
Hper = more = cancerHypo is good.
It’s great to hear you can feel the difference already. These medications are good and you are taking a good one. It should all be OK, but here’s the thing. On the first round of treatment 5% of people fail. That’s sad, but at FixHepC we run by the mantra of the US Marine Corps – No man (or woman) left behind.
I have nearly 4000 patients. About 200 failed the first round. A few died, but everyone else we got cured the second (or in a few cases 3rd) time around.
It will be ok.
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Hello Kaju,
For you, we have seen many cases of “liver enzymes” being elevated.
We call them liver enzymes but the come from muscle too.
We have seen your levels go up and down and seen your Hep C PCR remain negative.
You worry a lot. Some people do. I suggest you test for Hep B Ag and Hep C PCR and if these are negative….
Stop worrying and stop testing. You will, like all of us, die of something but it will not be the Hep B or Hep C you are worrying about.
My worry is that your worries will stop you enjoying 100% of your cure. You should enjoy this, rejoice in the magic of being cured and your cleverness of finding the cure.
This may not translate.
Life is a terminal disease and sexually transmitted at that.
Please take the tests for Hep B Ag and Hep C PCR and put your mind at rest. Once they come back negative enjoy the simple beauty of being alive, and live each day as though it may be your last – one day you will be right, but every other day you will have been wrong.
Life is a journey. It is not a trial run.
I try to live my life like this poem
I shall pass this way but once; any good that I can do or any kindness I can show to any human being; let me do it now. Let me not defer nor neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again.
– Etienne de Grellet QUAKER MISSIONARY
You may enjoy this hidden page on our website. I only share it with people I respect:
Play the videos – the last one says “a single act of caring creates an endless ripple”. I strive to create those ripples. Watch it – it will move you.
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PS: The hypodensity in the liver is most likely a cyst, particularly with the AFP of 20 which, although it is > 11 is completely normal for cirrhosis. 200-2000 is normal for HCC so you are much closer 2x to normal on the AFP than cancer 10x +
With cirrhosis, there is a 3% per year risk of HCC (aka liver cancer) so you will need several years of follow up with AFP and Ultrasound once you are cured, but at the moment it looks normal and unworrying.
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Hi Pacific,
Hmm, Maviret is good but 12 weeks with your profile is sub-optimal. I know you mentioned ITP but 32 platelets is pretty low and suggest more cirrhosis rather than less. I’ve treated patients with as low as 13 platelets and they now have … tada … 2x at 26 and SVR 24 and are back on the road driving trucks from Texas to Florida so I’ve seen worse.
GT3 + F4 + Y93H is as bad as it gets. If I was you, and of course I’m not, I would be throwing the kitchen sink at it. If this treatment fails you are in a world of pain. I will send you a PM.
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Hi Peter,
If, before treatment you had high values for your ALT and AST liver enzymes on you CMP then “proving” cure can really be as simple as repeating just the CMP and checking that your ALT and AST are back in the normal range – if they are down we know that there is no liver damage happening, and therefore there is no active Hep C.
You can get a viral load for about $150 (and under $100 in say Texas) using any of the providers listed here:
https://fixhepc.com/link2labs – and all but one of these labs will do it WITHOUT a doctors order and give the results straight back to you. Even for routine things like a CMP they are cheaper and use Quest and/or LabCorp collection centres. For example a CMP from https://www.walkinlab.com/category is $28 and a CBC + CMP is $44 so 1/2 the $88 you’ve been quoted…
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Hi Sven,
This is a great cover version of a great song! Thanks for sharing it.
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Hello Pacific,
The itching is almost certainly a mild drug allergy. You may find some over the counter antihistamine, probably taken 1 hour before the Maviret helps a bit. Short of changing the medication this is likely to continue through the entire treatment, but stop the day after your last tablet.
How long are you scheduled for? Ideally we would like 16 weeks Maviret for someone F4 with GT3.
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Brain fog is one of, if not the most common extrahepatic manifestation of Hep C
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4735500/
If you like Google search for “cognitive impairment hepatitis c ncbi”
Brain fog is very real and the changes show up on MRI scans
https://nn.neurology.org/content/2/1/e59
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Although we call the virus Hepatitis C it is known to infect many other organs including the brain.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4840160/
My first bit of advice would be to tell your doctor exactly what you are feeling so they can arrange any tests they think you should have.
My second bit of advice would be to treat the Hepatitis C. There is no useful purpose served by delaying treatment because
- the drug pipeline has finished so there is nothing better in development meaning
- you will be treated with drugs that are currently available and
- it is quite likely that some, perhaps all, or your current medical issues will disappear with treatment.
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