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Seymour wrote:Gaj wrote:
I share your concerns Paul, so we need to ensure that people are aware that not everyone caught it that way and that those of us who did have been typical Australian workers, taxpayers, parents, grandparents and valuable contributors to society in the often many decades since then.
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Everyone is equally deserving of treatment, even people who used to, or currently inject drugs. There are no undeserving patients and we must be careful not to stigmatise people whose experience is different from ours. We all suffer the stigma of hep C because of its association with injecting drug use so let’s not add to the stigma by using discriminatory language or suggesting that some people are more deserving than others because their experience is different.[/quote]
Hi Seymour,
I agree. This is very poorly worded on my part. As an ex user myself, my intent was to say that drug use or non-use did not make someone more or less deserving of treatment and that we all have something to give to society as can be seen in the valued and caring people I have interacted with on this site. And that this needed to be conveyed to anyone intending to influence, and any being influenced by, divisive tactics such as heppers vs pathology costs. But yes, in cold light of day it it could be read as almost the opposite.
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
And while I am happy to trust Seymour, the cuts happened basically at the same time as the funding. We are already making/disputing that link, the public won’t have the benefit of Seymour’s knowledge and I believe won’t care about the distinctions.
Although they may care if we can point out they are being played for suckers when others do use that strategy.
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
Hi Paul,
I understand that we have become pawns in the game and I suspect that it was deliberate strategy applied for several reasons and ends. However, as heppers, we come in many political flavours and colours so some will choose to fight this at a political level and others will not.
What we do all need to ensure is that the public for whose benefit this is being played out are aware of our story so they don’t just write us off as “once junkies, always junkies” in which case everyone loses.
Edit: And part of that may include pointing out where various groups, be they political parties or professional associations or others, are using us for their own ends without regard for the impact on us.
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
I share your concerns Paul, so we need to ensure that people are aware that not everyone caught it that way and that those of us who did have been typical Australian workers, taxpayers, parents, grandparents and valuable contributors to society in the often many decades since then.
G
G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
Great news Dan!
Hmm, Xmas….stay away from sugar/cakes? Well we probably all should, even those without the virus, but a little bit of moderation should see us through I think.
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
Hi Jill,
I’m not sure as I needed 24 so two times 12. I’m sure something could be worked out as there will be others who were in similar situations. Hopefully someone can post what they did so others can find out?
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
No apologies needed.
But….with F3/4 fibrosis 12 weeks of Harvoni will give mid 80-90% chance of cure.. 24 weeks of harvoni will give better chance of cure. So if you don’t want to use Ribavirin then you can do 24 weeks of Harvoni to give the same or even better result than Ribavarin. But it will cost more. You could try 16 or 20 weeks too, but I can not advise which would be best for you.
Edit: I see Dr Freeman recommends.24 weeks for ~ 95%
G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
Hi Jill,
You ask hard questions.
I think if your current LFTs, etc. are good, you feel well and are looking after yourself then that sort of progression in that time frame would be unlikely, or as you say, unlucky. Mine did jump up but with very noticeable test and general health effects plus I was already deemed high risk.
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
dointime wrote:Oh I forgot about that with the blood test. Sorry. However my doc told me that any liver panel blood test would show signs if my liver were to be going into cirrhosis. I am 65 so I have been paranoid every year about my liver suddenly deteriorating before the meds arrived. So if you had any blood test in the last year after your scan and there were no significant changes, I think you should be fine.
dt
Hi dt,
While not an expert that would fit with my experience. As I was seen as high risk I was checked via ultrasounds regularly and was also checked & considered F3 based on fibroscans. My LFTs which had been stable and only slightly high after (failed) treatment suddenly escalated leading to further investigations which resulted in a resection which confirmed me as F4 due to more scarring than expected.
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
Hi poodle,
Dr James’ post.
http://fixhepc.com/forum/experts-corner/398-hepascores-only-work-pre-treatment.html
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
Hi dabara,
It sounds like there is some confusion with terms. SVR12 is tested at 12 weeks after completing treatment.
It sounds like you mean doing a test at week 12 of treatment? And then deciding if you should treat longer?
If this is the case then by the time you get the new supply of meds you will have had a gap where you are not taking medication. If this is the case then you will probably need to start again and do a full retreatment which will need to be the full 24 weeks.I’m not a doctor myself so can’t advise whether 16 weeks of continuous Harvoni treatment would be enough for you. Perhaps Dr Freeman can? But the usual advice if you have or may have cirrhosis (you are F3/4 and fit this description) is to treat for 24 weeks for very best results. I think shorter treatments are based on economics for the insurer/government/whoever is paying rather than the best for the patient.
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
darbara wrote:I have been approved for 12 weeks Gilead harvoni which I am taking now but maybe I will have to get another 12 weeks generic myself if this fails and the state wont approve another 12 weeks.
Hi darbara,
Please consider getting the 12 weeks generics to use straight after the Harvoni to allow continuous treatment out to 24 weeks.
If you finish 12 weeks Harvoni and then wait to test if you have cleared and you fail then you will need to start again and do another full 24 weeks treatment in one go. The treatment must be continuous to work properly.
G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
Congratulations, Spook77!
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G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
Hi Joan,
Totally agree with you. Thanks to Dr Freeman’s initiative and also the seemingly tireless workers at the Buyers Club who help us to source the generics, I haven’t felt so good in too many years to remember.
I ordered my second 12 week prescription on Friday…..absolutely no regrets! And hopefully treating myself with generics helps someone who really needs it to get govt assistance.G
G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
Great news, 1folho!
G
G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
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