Do you trust Resof-L by Dr Reddy's ?

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9 January 2016 at 12:10 pm #8436
2b
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@2b
If it hasn’t been vetted and or approved on here or by Greg I wouldn’t buy it. You’re not saving that much, if any. Go with Greg or fixhepc trusted and proven sources, theres just no good reason to buy from an unknown, non proven supplier. If Greg or the folks on here say they’re ok, then good. But there are multiple proven suppliers on here already vetted so why are you even considering an unproven source?

GT 2b; since 80’s, no prior tx, sofosbuvir and daclatasvir compounded from API’s at Kingswood Pharmacy in Sydney, started tx nov 6,2015, undetected at 4 wks, UND at 8 weeks, UND at 1 week after EOT, UND at 4 weeks after EOT and UND at 8 weeks after EOT. I feel GOOD!! I knew that I WOULD!””
9 January 2016 at 12:19 pm #8438
LondonGirl
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@londongirl
Hi dtdwfhpc,
I cannot comment on this particular seller as I have never heard of them, sorry.
It always makes me wonder why anyone would not take a trusted route that is shared by many others.
I do understand that price may be a concern, but these are powerful medicines for a serious condition and my personal feeling is, buy medicines for your father through someone who has supply chain integrity.
You have come to the right place for that with the Fix HepC buyers club!

Meanwhile, apart from the most secure option, which would be the Fix HepC Buyers Club, the Redemption Trials or Greg J, there are discussions re suppliers on this forum in ‘Pharmas Market’. Putting your father’s GenoType & short treatment history in your profile would also help others here to advise you correctly.

Best wishes & wishing your Father well.

GT1a Dec14 F2/8.7 VL 900000-2.5M
Jan16 Hepcivir-L MonkMed/Redemption
Baseline: VL 913575 Alt 76 Platelets low
Wk2 VL1157 Alt 23
DET Wk 8 VL 32 Alt19 ‘In the slow lane’
June16 Fibro 5.7 F0/1 LIF 1.5
Wk 11 VL<12 Alt 13 Det/Unq
Extending tx 12 wks Mylan Sofo/Dac MonkMed
Wk 14 VL <12 Det/Unq
Wk 16 VL UNDETECTED
Wk 22 + 4 Wks Sunprevir FixHepC
Wk 24 UNDETECTED Alt 13
Wk 12 post tx SVR12 Wk 26 SVR24
Thank-you Tim, Dr Debasis @ MonkMed & Dr Freeman @ Fix HepC
9 January 2016 at 12:27 pm #8439
Alsdad
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@alsdad
I would phone their main office (all their offices’ contact details are available on their website), and get their Sales to confirm the price and verify the agent who offered you the product at that price.
9 January 2016 at 2:11 pm #8447
sergey01
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@sergey01
rightly said 2b. You are not saving much and does not make sense going for anything that does not have a recommendation of the moderators here on fixhepc or the buyers club.

God is great.Hep C gt1a.
Moldova. started Led + Sof from India on 27th Nov 3 weeks and No virus detected.
Salute to Indian Generic companies for affordable medicines.
9 January 2016 at 2:14 pm #8449
darbara
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@darbara
Vijay Patel
Divisional Head for Hepatology BU- Sales & Marketing at Dr. Reddy’s Laboratories , Hyderabad

https://www.linkedin.com/in/vijay-patel-b85b8360

Treatment naive
F 3/4
Genotype 1 a & b
V/L 17 MILLION
Started Harvoni 11th Dec 2015 for 12 weeks
4 weeks VL UND
6 WEEKS ALT 32, AST 34
EOT 03/03 2016 ! UND
ALT 34, AST 26
04.04.2016 SVR 4
26.05.2016 SVR 12
16.08.2016 SVR 24
9 January 2016 at 2:19 pm #8450
sergey01
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@sergey01
i think dtdwfhpc is humbuk and has registered a new account today to post the same thing. be cautious.

God is great.Hep C gt1a.
Moldova. started Led + Sof from India on 27th Nov 3 weeks and No virus detected.
Salute to Indian Generic companies for affordable medicines.
10 January 2016 at 5:53 pm #8550
dtdwfhpc
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@dtdwfhpc
sergey01 wrote:

i think dtdwfhpc is humbuk and has registered a new account today to post the same thing. be cautious.

and what exactly is a humbuk? pretty sure that’s like trying to call me a scammer or someone trying to raise positive image for the company?

and thanks to you, i have received 2 negative karmas. i don’t know what has the world come to, we all have our own situation, so i’d rather not start a war here in this forum when life is at stake here.

but i am very angry and disappointed for people that did that to me, which i really want to vent out my anger, but i shall hold it.

Anyone that has sense, and the mod can see all my actions, that i have not done anything wrong apart from what seemed like a double post. but i have since then brought the convo to the correct thread and i’ll leave that to the mod’s desicion on what he shall do with this one.
10 January 2016 at 6:15 pm #8552
Vororo
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Hey dtfwfhpc,

Like on any forum, the are some people here who shoot first and think later. Oiu asked a fair question and got some good anserws . This is what this site is supposed to be all about.

Just added +1 to your karma, as my way of saying I dont agree with some of those recent posts against you.

Hang in there my friend,

Diagnosed Jan 2015: GT3, A0+F0/F1. Fatigue + Brain-Fog.
Started Sof+Dac from fixHepC 10-Nov-2015. NO sides.
Pre-Tx: AST 82, ALT 133, Viral Load 1 900 000.
Week4: AST 47, ALT 58. VL < 15 (unquantifiable). Week12 (EOT): AST 30, ALT 26, VL UND Week16 (EOT+4): AST 32, ALT 28, GGT 24, VL UND Week28 (EOT+16): AST 26, ALT 22, GGT 24, VL UND Ever grateful to Dr James. Relapsed somewhere after all that... Bummer! Jan 2018: VL 63 000 (still GT3).
10 January 2016 at 6:37 pm #8553
mgalbrai
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@mgalbrai
Hi,
Can you not deal directly with Kingswood or West Linfield Pharmacies in Australia??
Mike

Curehcvnow@gmail.com
http://forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
10 January 2016 at 6:54 pm #8555
Alsdad
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@alsdad
If anybody has an issue with a post or poster, they should report it to Moderation. I would have deleted the post by sergey01, but dtdwfhpc ( couldn’t you have chosen an easier user name? ) has quoted it in a reasonable rebuttal. Like Vororo, I’ve bumped dtd’s karma back up.
10 January 2016 at 7:03 pm #8556
mgalbrai
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@mgalbrai
OK,
I just saw the “humbuk” post. If you are advocating for some supplier, you are not doing a very good job of it
As for just joining us here:WELCOME!!
Everyone here “just joined” at some point. As for someone selling something like this for half price: I wouldn’t go near it. Its like in the construction business: you get 10 bids on a project and one is half the amount of the next lowest bidder. I would reject that one immediately.
Good Luck!
My email is listed below and I have lots of good karma to spread around.
Mike

Curehcvnow@gmail.com
http://forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
10 January 2016 at 7:42 pm #8561
mgalbrai
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@mgalbrai
Here I reply to myself.. again.
I know nothing about Dr. Reddy. What I do know is that an Indian can buy generic Harvoni for $4 a pill or $336 for a 12 week tx. So, here is a source who is selling abroad for twice that amount. I have no clue what is going on, but I DO know that millions of Indians have HCV and many if them are desperately poor and can’t afford the $4 price. I am pretty sure there are some people who could find a way to make money given that particular set of circumstances.
Mike

Curehcvnow@gmail.com
http://forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
10 January 2016 at 7:53 pm #8563
Enkel
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@enkel
I think too that the cost far lower than 12USD. Thus I agree that 750 USD for 12 weeks is possible. But I dont know for reliability of such suppliers.

Male, Fibro F1. Geno 1b. ALT 67 before treatment Viral load 5 million. My huge viral load replicates in my nervous system as I suffer anxiety.
Started Twinvir 12/12/15.
Two weeks
ALT 17 at 2 weeks
Viral Load UND at 2 weeks
ALT 13.5 at 7 weeks EOT
ALT 10.5 at 15 weeks EOT
ALT 13 at 27 weeks EOT, VL UND, Cured
11 January 2016 at 8:52 am #8634
Gaj
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@gaj
Hi all,

The below does not relate to the Dr Reddys issue directly but represents my thoughts on some of the prices being quoted here.

Agree about reliability of suppliers being a concern but I also think there are other issues involved. I suspect the prices being quoted are taken from the article linked in this thread – http://fixhepc.com/forum/media-news/530-drug-that-costs-1200-and-sells-for-5-in-india.html

A couple of points about this article:

The drug being discussed is named as Sofosbuvir not Harvoni, so will be cheaper anyway. The min price quoted is as low as $4.29 so not a standard price although there is some speculation that it may go lower with time. That quoted value is the cost if a village of 200 people successfully negotiates directly with the drug company (no middle man or distributor profits) for exclusive treatment for that village. That is, it is a marketing share driven bulk deal not a normal street price and should not be compared with the pricing for buying one treatment for an individual.

Now, it may be that some of the drugs sourced this way end up on the black market at below the going rates but in that case there is the very real possibility that this will result in an Indian with hep not being treated because either someone scammed them or alternatively they or someone else made the difficult decision that feeding the family was more important than being cured.

Just something to consider when discussing Indian prices although I’m sure we would all like to see lower prices worldwide.

G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
17 January 2016 at 8:39 am #9505
Dr James
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@fixhepc
Thus I agree that 750 USD for 12 weeks is possible

What I do know is that an Indian can buy generic Harvoni for $4 a pill or $336 for a 12 week tx

At this moment in time you are both wrong. Sorry, but there is no way to sugar coat that.

In the future it will be possible, but right now you would need to be willing to fund (in advance and at a cost of over $1 million USD) an entire production run to get close to this price. You would probably not be getting it from India either due to the 7% royalty paid to Gilead.

Currently in India any price below $1000 USD should be viewed as being too good to be true.

Here is a link to what preports to be community pricing:

https://testandtreathepatitisc.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/indian-generic-sof_ldv-summary.pdf

And here is some expert commentary about it.
Hi James,

There are many things wrong in this sheet
1. First people need to understand Hetero is the only manufacturer and Cipla , Natco and rest all just package it and sell. If you see Hepcivir L Box, it clearly says manufactured by Hetero. So why would Hetero price be higher than Cipla(in your sheet). Cipla and Dr. Reddy’s are premium brand in India over all the others ones in the sheet. Yet they have the lowest prices.
2. The absolutely nothing called community pricing. We asked head of sales for Cipla and he confirmed that the only discount that is given is to govt agencies who source meds for BPL(Below Poverty Line) card holders. The packing and barcoding everything reflects that and not a single pill can be distributed outside the authorized BPL channel. These batches are handled directly by manufacturers and not even distributors have access let alone pharmacies.
3. Community pricing seems like a scam to sell meds at ridiculous prices.
I am worried, with these practices of selling Schedule H meds without prescription etc something really bad will happen and DCGI will clamp down the whole process.
Here is Dr Andrew Hill’s expert commentary on it.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4403972/

Note that he is not talking current market, but future possibility and gets to an API cost of $193 USD for Harvoni. If this statement was true:

What I do know is that an Indian can buy generic Harvoni for $4 a pill or $336 for a 12 week tx.

Then the current API costs would need to have been at Dr Hill’s future forecast price point 2 months ago when the APIs were ordered, prior to manufacture, distribution and sale. Of the final $336 price 57.5% would be API, 7% would be for Gilead and 35.5% ($119 USD) would be all that was available for freight, testing, manufacture, packaging, distribution and reseller margins.

Really?

The only people who could meet these unrealistic price expectations will not be selling valid product.

By suggesting these prices are realistic you are doing three things:
- Creating unrealistic patient expectations
- Making it easy for purveyors of fake product
- Making it hard for people providing the real thing as their prices appear too high
Lower prices will come, but at the moment circa $1000 USD is as good as it gets for generic Harvoni and this is only for delivery in India or Bangladesh, not delivered to your door.

YMMV
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