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  • #10070
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    • Guardian Angel
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    New-Onset Diabetes Mellitus With Exposure to Ledipasvir and Sofosbuvir.

    http://hic.sagepub.com/content/3/4/2324709615623300.full

    #10089
    Avatar photoEnkel
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    @enkel

    Anyone on the forum have measured the glucose during treatment?


    Male, Fibro F1. Geno 1b. ALT 67 before treatment Viral load 5 million. My huge viral load replicates in my nervous system as I suffer anxiety.
    Started Twinvir 12/12/15.
    Two weeks
    ALT 17 at 2 weeks
    Viral Load UND at 2 weeks
    ALT 13.5 at 7 weeks EOT
    ALT 10.5 at 15 weeks EOT
    ALT 13 at 27 weeks EOT, VL UND, Cured

    #10090
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    @londongirl

    Hi Enkel, No, but have always said, that while on tx, it makes sense to me to keep an eye on general observations, the more the better.

    This report was only 2 patients from what I understand? one co-infected with HIV and the other obese,
    Is there an easy test for Diabetes / Pre diabetes, or is it blood test only?


    GT1a Dec14 F2/8.7 VL 900000-2.5M
    Jan16 Hepcivir-L MonkMed/Redemption
    Baseline: VL 913575 Alt 76 Platelets low
    Wk2 VL1157 Alt 23
    DET Wk 8 VL 32 Alt19 ‘In the slow lane’
    June16 Fibro 5.7 F0/1 LIF 1.5
    Wk 11 VL<12 Alt 13 Det/Unq
    Extending tx 12 wks Mylan Sofo/Dac MonkMed
    Wk 14 VL <12 Det/Unq
    Wk 16 VL UNDETECTED
    Wk 22 + 4 Wks Sunprevir FixHepC
    Wk 24 UNDETECTED Alt 13
    Wk 12 post tx SVR12 Wk 26 SVR24
    Thank-you Tim, Dr Debasis @ MonkMed & Dr Freeman @ Fix HepC

    #10091
    Avatar photoEnkel
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    @enkel

    The old therapy induces diabetes too

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3161293/


    Male, Fibro F1. Geno 1b. ALT 67 before treatment Viral load 5 million. My huge viral load replicates in my nervous system as I suffer anxiety.
    Started Twinvir 12/12/15.
    Two weeks
    ALT 17 at 2 weeks
    Viral Load UND at 2 weeks
    ALT 13.5 at 7 weeks EOT
    ALT 10.5 at 15 weeks EOT
    ALT 13 at 27 weeks EOT, VL UND, Cured

    #10093
    dope-on-a-rope.jpgDr James
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    @fixhepc

    If you look at what the CDC has to say about it

    http://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/statistics/incidence/fig3.htm

    You will note that people in the 45-65 age range have an annual incidence of 12 per thousand. That is 3 per thousand per 3 months.

    So all other things being equal 1:300 patients aged 45-65 who are on ANY 3 month treatment will develop diabetes.

    This is not to say insulin resistance and HCV are not related, simply that STUFF, as in all sorts of stuff happens to patients on and off treatment.


    YMMV

    #10094
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    @londongirl

    mYes, was about to say, Diabetes is quite common with those with HCV and those over 50.

    Keep a healthy diet, have a check here & there, get rid of HepC !


    GT1a Dec14 F2/8.7 VL 900000-2.5M
    Jan16 Hepcivir-L MonkMed/Redemption
    Baseline: VL 913575 Alt 76 Platelets low
    Wk2 VL1157 Alt 23
    DET Wk 8 VL 32 Alt19 ‘In the slow lane’
    June16 Fibro 5.7 F0/1 LIF 1.5
    Wk 11 VL<12 Alt 13 Det/Unq
    Extending tx 12 wks Mylan Sofo/Dac MonkMed
    Wk 14 VL <12 Det/Unq
    Wk 16 VL UNDETECTED
    Wk 22 + 4 Wks Sunprevir FixHepC
    Wk 24 UNDETECTED Alt 13
    Wk 12 post tx SVR12 Wk 26 SVR24
    Thank-you Tim, Dr Debasis @ MonkMed & Dr Freeman @ Fix HepC

    #10095
    dope-on-a-rope.jpgDr James
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    @fixhepc

    Having HCV substantially increase your risk of developing Diabetes…

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2669937/#!po=1.08696

    Among those at high risk for T2D, persons with HCV infection were more than 11 times as likely as those without HCV infection to develop T2D (relative hazard, 11.58; 95% CI: 1.39-96.6)


    YMMV

    #10100
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    @price

    London girl:

    According to the American Diabetes Association, a fasting blood sugar above 100 gives you a diagnosis of pre diabetes, which means you’re insulin resistant.

    A HOMA obtained with a formula that uses blood sugar and insulin levels can also tell you if you’re insulin resistant.

    P.

    #10101
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    @price

    The study says the ION-3 clinical trial showed that in those who received ledipasvir/sofosbuvir for 12 weeks, the hyperglycemia rates were…..
    grade 1: serum glucose > up to 160 mg/dL……33.3%
    grade 2: >160-250 mg/dL….11.6%
    grade 3: >250-500 mg/dL …..2.3%
    grade 4: >500 mg/dL
    Those who received the medication for 8 weeks had hyperglycemia at the following rates: 21.4% (grade 1), 7.9% (grade 2), and 1.4% (grade 3).
    All patients with Grade 3 or 4 increased serum glucose had either a medical history of diabetes or glucose intolerance (HbA1c > 6.0%) at screening

    That’s worse than interferon.

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    #10102
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    @enkel

    Price,

    Can you post the link?


    Male, Fibro F1. Geno 1b. ALT 67 before treatment Viral load 5 million. My huge viral load replicates in my nervous system as I suffer anxiety.
    Started Twinvir 12/12/15.
    Two weeks
    ALT 17 at 2 weeks
    Viral Load UND at 2 weeks
    ALT 13.5 at 7 weeks EOT
    ALT 10.5 at 15 weeks EOT
    ALT 13 at 27 weeks EOT, VL UND, Cured

    #10103
    Avatar photoEnkel
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    @enkel

    Price you should add this:

    All patients with Grade 3 or 4 increased serum glucose had either a medical history of diabetes or glucose intolerance (HbA1c > 6.0%) at screening


    Male, Fibro F1. Geno 1b. ALT 67 before treatment Viral load 5 million. My huge viral load replicates in my nervous system as I suffer anxiety.
    Started Twinvir 12/12/15.
    Two weeks
    ALT 17 at 2 weeks
    Viral Load UND at 2 weeks
    ALT 13.5 at 7 weeks EOT
    ALT 10.5 at 15 weeks EOT
    ALT 13 at 27 weeks EOT, VL UND, Cured

    #10106
    Avatar photokenbasman
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    @kenbasman

    I have type II diabetes and my sugars have been extra low during tx. Suffering more from hypo than hyperglycemia. I take no meds for the diabetes. I just control it with diet and exercise. I check my bloods a fair bit.
    I just figured that the diabetes was being at least partially caused by my liver, not my pancreas, and the low numbers were a result of tx. Hmmmm.


    HCV 35 yrs G1a F3 Tx naive
    started Lesovir-C 15/12/2015
    pre tx: VL 5,250,000 ALT 374 AST 208
    FIBROSCORE 10.4

    4 weeks tx ALT 29/ AST 33. VL < 12 UI/mL 8 weeks tx ALT 29/ AST 34. VL UND 4 weeks after tx UND. SVR4. ALT 24/AST 18

    #10108
    Avatar photoLondonGirl
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    @londongirl

    Hmmm
    So, ‘serum glucose’ is what it looks like on the blood test?
    I don’t think I’ve ever had one of those tests.
    May be worth keeping an eye on the GP will run a test. Why not?

    I have read that some patients were pre-diabetes before treating and then after SVR it went away.
    I guess we just have to do careful watching for a few things, an unwell liver can cause a lot of problems.

    Enkel said “All patients with Grade 3 or 4 increased serum glucose had either a medical history of diabetes or glucose intolerance (HbA1c > 6.0%) at screenin” – Ahhh thanks Enkel, thought those figures rather high!


    GT1a Dec14 F2/8.7 VL 900000-2.5M
    Jan16 Hepcivir-L MonkMed/Redemption
    Baseline: VL 913575 Alt 76 Platelets low
    Wk2 VL1157 Alt 23
    DET Wk 8 VL 32 Alt19 ‘In the slow lane’
    June16 Fibro 5.7 F0/1 LIF 1.5
    Wk 11 VL<12 Alt 13 Det/Unq
    Extending tx 12 wks Mylan Sofo/Dac MonkMed
    Wk 14 VL <12 Det/Unq
    Wk 16 VL UNDETECTED
    Wk 22 + 4 Wks Sunprevir FixHepC
    Wk 24 UNDETECTED Alt 13
    Wk 12 post tx SVR12 Wk 26 SVR24
    Thank-you Tim, Dr Debasis @ MonkMed & Dr Freeman @ Fix HepC

    #10113
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    • Guardian Angel
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    @price

    That’s because HCV causes diabetes.

    I preached about insulin resistance for years,
    http://www.projectsinknowledge.com/cc3/index2.cfm?id=243

    so ban me now or I’ll drive you crazy talking about IR.
    I’m thinking the Zolpidem on your cheat sheet can cause hyperglycemia.

    P.

    #10117
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    @price

    It’s a big can of worms. You won’t be able to take meds that increase blood sugar and there are many that do. Plus having high blood sugar predisposes you to getting infections.

    And nobody will like me again because I’ll tell them not to eat chocolate and ice cream :ohmy:

    P.

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