Squirrel Feces - FixHepC

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15 March 2016 at 10:47 am #13847
berrinice
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Hi all

I have come across an interesting substance for treating liver disease, Squirrel feces, a chinese medicine. Apparently it is widely used in chinese medicine and is TGA approved. In fact all batches are tested by the TGA for any impurities. Is anyone else using/have used it? I wonder what the Doc thinks of it? kindly Berrinice
15 March 2016 at 11:57 am #13855
Gaj
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Hi berrinice,

Do you have any links particularly to the TGA approval?

G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
15 March 2016 at 12:16 pm #13861
berrinice
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No I don’t have any TGA links. A teaching college supplies it through their student clinic and my friend told me what the qualified teaching Dr said. TGA approved and each batch tested. I don’t think they would prescribe it if its not TGA approved. The college has a long standing professional name to protect.
But if anyone can find it as an approved medicine I would really appreciate it. The chinese name is Wu Ling Zhi or squirrel feces. kindly B
15 March 2016 at 12:23 pm #13864
LondonGirl
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Squirrel feces? hmy: Can’t say that sounds v appealing especially first thing in the morning !

GT1a Dec14 F2/8.7 VL 900000-2.5M
Jan16 Hepcivir-L MonkMed/Redemption
Baseline: VL 913575 Alt 76 Platelets low
Wk2 VL1157 Alt 23
DET Wk 8 VL 32 Alt19 ‘In the slow lane’
June16 Fibro 5.7 F0/1 LIF 1.5
Wk 11 VL<12 Alt 13 Det/Unq
Extending tx 12 wks Mylan Sofo/Dac MonkMed
Wk 14 VL <12 Det/Unq
Wk 16 VL UNDETECTED
Wk 22 + 4 Wks Sunprevir FixHepC
Wk 24 UNDETECTED Alt 13
Wk 12 post tx SVR12 Wk 26 SVR24
Thank-you Tim, Dr Debasis @ MonkMed & Dr Freeman @ Fix HepC
15 March 2016 at 12:38 pm #13867
flyingfox66
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Hahah its not just Squirrel Faeces, but Flying Squirrel Faeces!
Cool!
http://www.chineseherbshealing.com/flying-squirrel-droppings/

F49HepC25ysGT1a
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15 March 2016 at 12:54 pm #13868
berrinice
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I guess people wanting to reverse cirrhosis will try anything. Apparently human feces is used to treat colon disease in America don’t know about Australia. kindly b
15 March 2016 at 1:10 pm #13870
Gaj
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Okay, the squirrel species is Trogopterus xanthipes Milne-Edwards.

There has been some science done on its droppings though I couldn’t find any references to the liver.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3450127

So not as off the wall as it sounds although I suspect TGA approval would be either an extract or synthesis of one of the chemicals present (possibly isopimarane diterpene?) rather that the squirrel poop itself. ick:' />

G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
15 March 2016 at 9:09 pm #13883
mgalbrai
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Holy Chinese Flying Squirrel Poop, Batman!!
Wu Ling Zhi is currently banned in the U.S.
Given that, there might be something to it……
M

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G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
16 March 2016 at 4:15 am #13908
Greedfighter
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I’m thinking this thread should be under “Fun Stuff and Trivia”

Squirrel Feces? Maybe 20 years ago it could be a help.

I recommend Twinvir

or Sofosbuvir & Daclatasvir / Ribavirin depending on your situation! Contact GP2U.com

The upside would be you don’t need an RX for Squirrel Feces.
16 March 2016 at 4:33 am #13911
mgalbrai
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Well, if your in the U.S., you would have to smuggle in your Chinese flying squirrel scat, because the FDA has a ban on it.
I wonder if you can smoke it?
Something about eating tree rat droppings…
even those with a pilot’s license…

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G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
16 March 2016 at 4:41 am #13912
beaches
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1. I’ll ask my acupuncturist
2. I have plenty of cat feces you can have really cheap. Postage may be a problem though.

Genotype 1a
Diagnosed in 2004, had HCV for all my adult life. Until 2016!!!!
Harvoni treatment, started 19 March 2016
4 week results Bilirubin 12 down from 14 pre treatment,
Gamma 25 down from 52, ALT 19 down from 63, AST 19 down from 47,
VL <15 down from a lazy 6 million or so

EOT Results
Bilirubin 10, GGT 18, ALT 19, AST 21, VL UND

12 Weeks post EOT
Bilirubin 11, GGT 16, ALT 22, AST 20, VL UND
Cured baby
16 March 2016 at 4:44 am #13913
mgalbrai
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Maybe in suppository form…
I mean, it should feel right at home in there…

Curehcvnow@gmail.com
http://forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
16 March 2016 at 7:02 am #13916
Dr James
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The rules governing complementary medicines are here:

https://www.tga.gov.au/publication/australian-regulatory-guidelines-complementary-medicines-argcm

Which says they need to be on the ARTG (Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods)

The ARTG is here:

https://www.ebs.tga.gov.au/

Click the “Public TGA Information” link on the left, then the “Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods”

Try as I might I can’t find “Wu Ling Zhi” listed…..

YMMV
16 March 2016 at 9:52 am #13919
Tina-Hill-facebook
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illy:' />

SVR 24
16 March 2016 at 11:27 am #13922
CC2B
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Mike you are killing me here Lmao

GT2b diagnosed 10/2015
since: unknown
11/20/15 VL= 214,070
12/4/15 ALT=18 AST= 24
1/16/16 started sof/dac
2/13/16 @4wks VL=UND ALT=13 AST=22
3/12/16 @8wks VL=UND ALT=10 AST=18
4/9/16 EOT VL=UND ALT=11 AST=19
9/23/16 SVR24 ALT=11 AST=22
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