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8 May 2016 at 11:11 am in reply to: The Horror of Interferon: WARNING: Very Disturbing Content! #16823
Thanks, yes, it is interesting…
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 917 May 2016 at 10:13 am in reply to: The Horror of Interferon: WARNING: Very Disturbing Content! #16778Hi, Gaj! Yes – page 708 in http://ilc-congress.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/abstracts/20160416_sat/sat_ilc2016_no_embargo_lr.pdf , “GENDER AND IFNL4 RS12979860 GENOTYPE PREDICT RESPONSE TO LEDIPASVIR/SOFOSBUVIR”
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91Congratulations Gaj! I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 916 May 2016 at 5:58 pm in reply to: The Horror of Interferon: WARNING: Very Disturbing Content! #16764Yes, i am planning 24 weeks. Some negative predictors may slightly lower SVR rate for me – for example, SVR rate for sof-led with IL28b TT is near 90%, instead of near 100% for IL28b CC, according to one report from EASL-2016.
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 916 May 2016 at 3:48 pm in reply to: The Horror of Interferon: WARNING: Very Disturbing Content! #16759Yes. I relapsed after 48 week of peg-rib at 2006 with compensated F4 and 1b. Fortunately, there were no very serious side effects during therapy. There was an opportunity to undergo peg-telaprevir-riba therapy several years ago and many people recommended me to do this due to F4… My doc said like that – “if you want, you may try peg-telaprevir-rib, but your case is hard to treat”. Liver function was stable and i decided did not undergo this therapy… Some clinical trials show substantional mortality at therapy with telaprevir and F4 and there was not clear for me – whether possible benefits of treatment with telaprevir outweigh its risks of harm or not. Unfortunately, one guy died on russian-spoken forum during telaprevir-based therapy, probably without cirrhosis. Dr.Koretz wrote in 2013, before the wide acceptance of interferon-free regimens:
Given the natural history of chronic hepatitis C, as well as what we know therapy accomplishes, it is very difficult to justify a policy for routinely treating such patients to prevent decompensated liver disease. The surrogate outcomes were not valid in the one occasion when validation information was available. The treatment has not been proven to be efficacious with regard to preventing clinically important disease, it is expensive, and it causes substantial morbidity (including death). It is an inappropriate clinical decision to prescribe a toxic therapy (especially an expensive one) that has never been shown to provide clinical benefit in properly-done randomized trials.
(http://www.news-medical.net/health/Hepatitis-C-treatment-no-benefits-and-possible-harm.aspx)
Now planning to try treatment with indian generics.
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91Hi Phoenix,
I hope you will attain SVR. But, if you are F0-1 at 57 after 39 years of HCV-infected – it is unlikely that you will die from HCV-related cirrhosis (and its complications) even in case of “viral relapse”. Thus, it needs to compare possible benefits and risks of “retreatment attempts”. Serious medications (for example, like interferon or boceprevir) may give more “harm” than “good”. If there is no urgent need for treatment (for example, severe extrahepatic manifestation of HCV – like cryoglobulinemic vasculitis with damage of kidneys) – it may be better to defer treatment in case of relapse after sof+dac failure.
Deferral of treatment is recommended, pending availability of data for patients with HCV genotype 1, regardless of subtype, in whom previous treatment with any HCV nonstructural protein 5A (NS5A) inhibitors has failed, who do not have cirrhosis, and do not have reasons for urgent retreatment.
(http://www.hcvguidelines.org/full-report/retreatment-persons-whom-prior-therapy-has-failed)
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91Thank you very much. Yes, it will require several weeks/months to collect SVR data for indian NS5A generics, especially for 24 weeks courses.
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91James, thank you for presentation!
Could you please clarify – which brands of generics were used for REDEMPTION-1 trial, which result was presented at EASL-2016? Is this correct, that Bangladesh-made drugs was used (like Twinvir, Lesovir-C, Daclacee, Daclavir) and “chinese API” drugs? What is timeline of REDEMPTION-1 trial?
Is this correct that indian NS5A generics is used mainly in ongoing REDEMPTION-2 and REDEMPTION-3, not in REDEMPTION-1 trial?
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91“Ribavirin is genotoxic and mutagenic and should be considered a potential carcinogen.” – http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/DevelopmentApprovalProcess/HowDrugsareDevelopedandApproved/ApprovalApplications/TherapeuticBiologicApplications/ucm094490.pdf
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91Hi LondonGirl, yes, i agree.
He used such schema:
1-7 weeks – sof+dac
8-9 weeks – sof+dac+simeprevir
10-24 weeks – dac+simeprevir+ribavirin
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91mgalbrai, thanks for sharing links.
If i correctly understand, the problem, mentioned by Dr. Koretz, is that hcv treatment, from point of view of “evidence-based medicine”, really, is a bit experimental treatment, like clinical trials… SVR is “unvalidated surrogate” and we cannot exclude that, in future, for example, new much more sensitive tests may be developed and all people with SVR may become “HCV-carriers”, detected by those very sensitive tests…
There is another text about similar issues – http://www.openhealthnews.com/story/2015-01-18/lack-good-medical-evidence-new-100000-hepatitis-c-drug-treatments
-The best evidence available suggests that most patients with hepatitis C will not go on to have severe complications of the disease (cirrhosis, liver failure, liver cancer), and hence could not benefit much from treatment.
-There is no evidence from randomized controlled trials that treatment prevents most of these severe complications
-There is no clear evidence that “sustained virologic response,” (SVR), the surrogate outcome measure promoted by the pharmaceutical industry, means cure.
-While the new drugs are advertised as having fewer adverse effects than older drugs, it is not clear that their benefits, whatever they may be, outweigh their harms.
if these drugs have not been shown to do more good than harm, and the lack of evidence is clearly the responsibility of the drugs’ manufacturers who chose not to do very large and/or long-term randomized controlled trials and not to assess clinical outcomes, what justification is there for the gargantuan prices of these drugs?
Possibly, it may have some consequences… For example, if we will make a strategy “to treat everyone hcv-infected as soon as possible” – what does it mean in terms of “evidence-based medicine”? Does it mean “to involve everyone of hcv-infected in a some sort of large uncontrolled “clinical trial”?
P.S. About tolerability of treatment – i know one guy, who tolerated high doses of interferon without significant problems, but, surprisingly, he did not tolerated several months of sofosbuvir. He achieved SVR after discontinuation of sofosbuvir.
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91Gaj
Hi! Gilead license agreement is there – http://www.gilead.com/~/media/files/pdfs/other/2014_original_hcv_licensing_agreement.pdf?la=en
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91In this case, what is about “quality control” and “transfer of technology” from Gilead/BMS to generic manufacturers (for example, recently mentioned by Dr.Gane for ledipasvir)? Is this correct that different generic producers may develop their own different technologies of manufacturing, then Gilead/BMS give them rights to put on packs “under a license” marks without transfer of technology and “quality control”?
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91Yes. But does it mean that transfer of technology was already completed to these 4 companies under supervision of BMS? If yes, how to explain different storage conditions for different brands and absence of “manufactured under a license” marks on many packs?
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91Virtuose
Hi!
Yes, it seems like “puzzling” questions…Can anyone clarify these things? What do you think about it? Thanks.
Probably infected in 1977
2005 – diagnosed with HCV 1b, compensated F4, 15 mln viral load, ALT 320
2005-2006 – PegIFN/rib 48 weeks treatment, relapse
2016 – compensated F4, MELD 8-9, ALT 100-160
2018 – compensated F4, MELD 8, ALT 91 -
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