What is the perfect medical treatment system

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27 February 2016 at 5:22 pm #12843
re_roll
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@re_roll
splitdog wrote:

The first person a gun control advocate calls when there is a shooting? A cop. Why? He has a gun.
Do I still have any friends left?

Ditto to everything Mike just said. I have cancelled more posts than what has been submitted.
Sometimes one needs to wait an hour or even the next day to submit a post, especially an emotional
one. Think about the reaction and consequences. If one does not care, then do it.

Regarding firearms…..I live in the wild west. Enough said. My internet third sense is tingling now. This
subject is like politics and religion. My main complaint is weaponry that can hold many rounds with rapid
fire trigger settings…..unnecessary for the public IMO. I have friends who agree with my opinion. As a
matter of fact, they are hunters who hunt with bow and arrow. Now, that is challenging.

Anyhow, you helped me on this site and I am thankful. Try to temper your posts a little bit….just saying.

contracted Gen 1a in the 70’s, dx in 2007…ast 27 to 35…alt 43 to 96…vl 1.2 mil to 8.6 mil.
biopsy F-2 (2012)..pre tx results 1/23/16 ast 32, alt 46, vl 3.1 mil
tx started 2/11/16…. lab results 2/24/16 ast 18, alt 18, vl <15 IU/ml
28 days later………….lab results 3/9/16 ast 21, alt 21, vl UND
56 days later………….lab results 4/6/16 ast 20, alt 22, vl UND
139 days later………..lab results 6/29/16 ast 28, alt 30, vl UND…EOT
SVR24
27 February 2016 at 6:11 pm #12849
mgalbrai
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Assault rifles, like the M4A3 Bushmaster in my gun safe, are made for one purpose: to kill people as quickly and efficiently as possible.
If the government has to ban the sale of them to reduce the number of nuts that can get their hands on one, I am all for it. The prices for them would skyrocket. Criminals would be scrambling to get them. But the number of mass killings by crazies who went to a gunshow or pawnshop, bought one and opened up on people would go down. If you have to make it harder for everyone to get them in order to make it harder for the nut jobs to get them, so be it.

One way to deal with this problem would be to treat assault rifles like they do machine guns:

http://smartgunlaws.org/federal-law-on-machine-guns-automatic-firearms/

This was a common sense law restricting ownership of fully automatic weapons.
It was passed in the middle of, you guessed it, Ronald Reagan’s presidency.

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http://forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
27 February 2016 at 7:19 pm #12855
splitdog
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Thanks guys, nice to hear. Sometimes I am like Donald in one aspect; I blurt stuff out brashly without regard, as long as I feel I’m right. But there is a better, more tempered way. After all, I am among friends here, not political adversaries.

Gun control is a touchy subject. It’s just that guns will never go away. No amount of laws will work against a criminal whose intent is to hurt others. Like drugs. Every law known to man has been passed, yet drugs remain relatively easy to obtain. Anyway, thanks for the great start to my day.

splitdog@roadrunner.com

Genotype 3
VL 4,100,000
ALT 101 AST 71
Treatment Naive
Started Sof/Dac Jan 12, 2016
VL= <15 4 weeks in. AST/ALT normal.
VL=UNDETECTED 8 weeks in.
SVR4= Virus back. 3,300,000

Started generic Epclusa Sep. 23, 2017

4 weeks in <15 *Detected.
12 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
16 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
Finished 24 weeks treatment 3-17-18
SVR5 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 20 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 44 <15 Not Detected.

Thank you Jesus.
Thank you Dr. James
27 February 2016 at 9:41 pm #12868
Sirchinenge
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You have more deaths by guns in the US then any other western society if you don’t see the correlation
between the amount of weapons available to purchase and the death rate regardless of who shoots then
you fail too see the bigger picture and are probably hanging onto the right to bear arms.

Sure. Local Law enforcement in the US is now as close to military as you can get full of thugs who should
have never being allowed to join a bus line never mind allowed to serve and protect.

Sob/Dac from Oct 29 2015
Geno 1b
Fiberscan 9.9 Pre treatment
Fiberscan 7.4 week 10
VL 1.3 million pre treatment
Week 2.5 VL 96
Week 5.5 VL 17
Week 10 VL UD
SVR 3 UD
SVR 16 UD
Cured:
All liver functions in normal ranges.
27 February 2016 at 9:51 pm #12870
mgalbrai
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The 2nd Amendment, gotta love it or hate it.
I don’t even hunt.
But there’s something about guns.
I think it’s genetic.

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G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
27 February 2016 at 11:17 pm #12875
Vororo
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re_roll wrote:

Sometimes one needs to wait an hour or even the next day to submit a post, especially an emotional
one. Think about the reaction and consequences. If one does not care, then do it.

Yeah, well said mate!

We are here for HCV, how to get cured, and even how to help other people get cured. Maybe even to have some fun while we’re at it. The way I see it, this forum is our temple to that, and I really hope it can stay that way.

And for anyone in need of something else….. happy hunting!

Diagnosed Jan 2015: GT3, A0+F0/F1. Fatigue + Brain-Fog.
Started Sof+Dac from fixHepC 10-Nov-2015. NO sides.
Pre-Tx: AST 82, ALT 133, Viral Load 1 900 000.
Week4: AST 47, ALT 58. VL < 15 (unquantifiable). Week12 (EOT): AST 30, ALT 26, VL UND Week16 (EOT+4): AST 32, ALT 28, GGT 24, VL UND Week28 (EOT+16): AST 26, ALT 22, GGT 24, VL UND Ever grateful to Dr James. Relapsed somewhere after all that... Bummer! Jan 2018: VL 63 000 (still GT3).
27 February 2016 at 11:22 pm #12876
mgalbrai
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Well said!!
I second that emotion.

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http://forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
28 February 2016 at 3:29 am #12902
sonix
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I don’t see the relationship between guns and HCV or “What is the perfect medical treatment system”.

M 61yo HCV+ ~ 30 yrs Gt1a F2 VL 223,000 ALT 54 AST 42 Tx start Sof/Dac 17Dec15.
SVR4 at 7Apr16 ALT 22 AST 22
SVR12 at 9Jun16 ALT 23 AST 25
Melbourne, Australia
28 February 2016 at 3:50 am #12905
Gaj
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“It’s just another town along the road”
– Danny O’Keefe

G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
28 February 2016 at 4:06 am #12907
flyingfox66
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“Happiness is a warm gun!”
I dunno, maybe thats the connection.
I have no problems if Americans want to shoot each other.
Happy to live in a relatively gun free country instead.

Thats the thing I think many Americans don’t understand. Most people who live in countries with gun control and healthcare are more than happy to do so.

I never take arguments personally, so whatever the differences of opinion we are all still united by a common goal. I do think its important not to try and lay guilt trips on people for using socialised medicine whatever your personal beliefs…its not conducive to their healing.

F49HepC25ysGT1a
mild”
28 February 2016 at 5:28 am #12909
mgalbrai
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Here we are, posting on a site that was founded because the health care systems where we all live are broken. So, “What is the perfect medical treatment system?” That is a good question.
The answer can be different for each person who is asked. Maybe one group from one country like theirs and another, from the same country, hates it. Could be what works well in a densely populated nation would suck in a place less crowded.
Defining the qualities of a good system are easy: Accessible, affordable, fair, cost-effective, quality medicines, skilled and compassionate doctors, etc. But different countries have to adapt to their unique conditions.
So, in short, it’s like asking what came first, the chicken or the egg? But, maybe you live in a place where that isn’t a relevant question, because the government tells you which came first. Perhaps there are no chickens where you live, so you really could care less.
I think I will focus my limited intellect elsewhere, as this discussion seems to be an argument waiting to happen.
If I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry.

Curehcvnow@gmail.com
http://forums.delphiforums.com/generichcvtx

G 1a F-1
Started tx 10/23/15 (Meso sof & led) ALT 48 AST 28 v/l 1.6 mil
11/17/15 4 wk lab ALT 17 AST 16 <15
11/18/15 Started Harvoni
12/16/15 8 wk lab ALT: 15 AST: 13 V/l UND
1/14/16 Fin. Tx
7/07/16 UND SVR 24
28 February 2016 at 6:48 am #12912
splitdog
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Next time I’ll post one of these first:

splitdog@roadrunner.com

Genotype 3
VL 4,100,000
ALT 101 AST 71
Treatment Naive
Started Sof/Dac Jan 12, 2016
VL= <15 4 weeks in. AST/ALT normal.
VL=UNDETECTED 8 weeks in.
SVR4= Virus back. 3,300,000

Started generic Epclusa Sep. 23, 2017

4 weeks in <15 *Detected.
12 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
16 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
Finished 24 weeks treatment 3-17-18
SVR5 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 20 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 44 <15 Not Detected.

Thank you Jesus.
Thank you Dr. James
28 February 2016 at 7:12 am #12913
Gaj
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Well, it has been a long and winding road as I indicated above.

I have to put my hand up here and plead a little guilty as I started this thread. The original intent was to create somewhere to discuss the nature of the differing medical systems and maybe get some thoughts on how they could be improved. While starting the thread I was deliberately provocative towards one of our members and apologise for that. Split, sorry, while I don’t agree with all your ideas (though possibly more than you suspect) I do value many of your contributions and support for other members, here and elsewhere.

Anyway, when the thread started to career off track I wasn’t too fussed and left it be as I figured it gave everyone a place to blow off a bit of steam without interfering with the main purpose of this site which is helping and supporting those with HCV whether seeking, on Tx with or just curious about DAAs.

But like Mike, I suspect that there are no perfect medical systems out there (or firearms systems for that matter). It really depends on where you live and how you view the political process. Pointing out how the system you currently have first hand experience of can be improved is important but criticising other’s systems, beliefs and politics doesn’t add much value to the topic of DAAs for HCV and is likely to discourage guests and potential new members from joining us and participating to share their experiences and knowledge.

So perhaps it is time to let this thread die a natural death?

G3a since ’78 – Dx ’12 – F4 (2xHCC)
24wk Tx – PEG/Riba/Dac 2013 relapsed
24wk Tx – Generic Sof/Dac/Riba 2015/16 relapsed
16wk Tx – 12/01/17 -> 03/05/17 NS3/NS5a + Generic Sof
SVR7 – 22/06/17 UND
SRV12 – 27/07/17 UND
SVR24 – 26/10/17 UND
28 February 2016 at 11:17 pm #12948
splitdog
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Thank you.
True, and I suspect that the powers that be are okay with the way things are. Or they would change them. I wanted to get the idea out there about the personal medical saving account, of which there are several incarnations. I’m good with putting a ‘do not resuscitate’ on this thread. It does more dividing than unifying.

As in life, we should treat each others ideas and recommendations with respect and genuinely discuss them without prejudice or disdain for the individual putting these ideas out there. i.e.; “Only a loser would think that way!’ vs. ” I have to disagree based on……” Or, “I don’t care if all Americans……..” But, alas, such is the very nature of ‘internet discussions’.

splitdog@roadrunner.com

Genotype 3
VL 4,100,000
ALT 101 AST 71
Treatment Naive
Started Sof/Dac Jan 12, 2016
VL= <15 4 weeks in. AST/ALT normal.
VL=UNDETECTED 8 weeks in.
SVR4= Virus back. 3,300,000

Started generic Epclusa Sep. 23, 2017

4 weeks in <15 *Detected.
12 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
16 weeks in <15 *Not Detected.
Finished 24 weeks treatment 3-17-18
SVR5 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 20 <15 Not Detected.
SVR 44 <15 Not Detected.

Thank you Jesus.
Thank you Dr. James
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