Hi DT,

Thanks for posting.

Having read the thread I can see how you might feel that way.

To me your question was perfectly valid and Sir’s response was rude. We all have bad days.

That might well have been the end of it but you did then throw a rock back with:

Hi Sir,

Have you just caught up with this conversation? – a day late and a dollar short, as they say.
Maybe get yourself into the ballpark first, then we’ll have something to talk about.
dt

And it looks like the bickering continues from there. Sir did have a valid point in that not detected does deserve a dancing banana.

To answer the original question:

I’ve now seen well over 2000 HCV RNA results from almost every lab in the country.

Some report at HCV quantitative like this

HCV RNA <15
log < 1.18 And then go on to add: Comment: Undetected (by mostly COBAS Taqman) Some report it like this: HCV RNA N

N = Undetected

Some like this:

HCV RNA < 15 COM1

COM1: Not detected

There are quite a few styles and skipping writing <12 <15 <25 or <30 when it is undetected is not that uncommon.

Undetected itself really just means <5 (depending on the test).

I did see one the other day that said something like "Quantification not done due to HCV RNA not being detected" which seemed a pretty sensible way to report it.

Personally I prefer the ones that cut to the chase and just say undetected rather than requiring me to read the <15 and then the comment.

Anyway, I think you've been here long enough to be made a moderator too so take care with the extra buttons. The pay is terrible and the hours are awful.

We're a mixed bunch and it's highly stressful wondering if you're going to draw the short straw at SVR time. I've enjoyed a lot of your posts and would hate to see you go or not feel welcome. Maybe you and Sir could agree it was not the finest hour on the forum and both decide to move on?

I would be willing to bet that if you and Sir did the personailty test here:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

You would fall at polar opposite ends

Me, I'm an INTP

INTP
Introvert(38%) iNtuitive(62%) Thinking(53%) Perceiving(34%)
You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (38%)
You have distinct preference of Intuition over Sensing (62%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (53%)
You have moderate preference of Perceiving over Judging (34%)

<25 was mine 4 weeks, the doc said its UND the treatments working GREAT this was after 27 pills

This is great medicine and we are the first global cohort, apart from early trials.
Ty for my meds
I didn’t like that threads tone in places either, it was challenging to try to turn it around to a positive, and don’t think it is nice to see this here….remember we are blessed to have tx at all; ty James for this fantastic opportunity to cure us, in my case my goal is to attract people to this cure not to scare them.
Have a great day and smell the roses
Ariel

Ah, if in doubt RTFM. Now I understand.

I am “ENFJ”:

You have marginal or no preference of Extraversion over Introversion (3%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (56%)
You have slight preference of Feeling over Thinking (12%)
You have marginal or no preference of Judging over Perceiving (1%)

Still, liked the idea of Judging = 1%. A good principle for everyone here on the forum…

Perhaps a reread of this important statement of the Forum’s purpose and basic principles is appropriate at this point.

http://fixhepc.com/forum/welcome/368-this-forum-is-censored-only-for-spam.html

I would just like to comment that while “warts and all” is appropriate for the HCV part of discussions, and I personally quite enjoy the thrush and parry of discussion, we all need to be mindful of differing sensitivities of others to what is robust debate and what is personal attack.

I would hope this forum remains an open and welcoming place for discussion, where members can feel safe to express their personal experiences and considered opinions while guests and new members feel they can join and participate without fear or favour.

As noted, we have a Report to Moderator button at the bottom right of each post which goes to all mods and seems to work well for Spam but I would hope doesn’t require too much use for members posts.

You’re absolutely right kenbasman.

Texts/emails/posts all lose the non verbal nuances.

It’s best to cut your losses in some circumstances. I can remember having a robust conversation with another programmer called Abigail that ended like this:

Abigail: I am consigning you to the but bucket {kerplunk}

Sure thing.

I’m locking this thread now.

I think enough has been said.